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Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:52 pm to HempHead
The men are dramatic as hell, and always act like they are going to whoop some arse to overcompensate for their feminism.
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:53 pm to Displaced
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no, some people just don't want to be forced to make a wedding cake for a homosexual marriage.
Then they shouldn't run a bakery in Colorado where the state constitution says you don't have a choice.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:55 pm to TigerBait1127
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Isn't traditional marriage between a man and several women?
Not in this country.
In the Middle East. Of course, if you want to go by their norms, we'll be stoning and hanging homosexuals.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:55 pm to MMauler
A simple "k 
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" will suffice as a response to that post.Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:57 pm to sabes que
Every single thing I do or try to do is based off religion. Can't take it away and just make up answers.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:57 pm to boosiebadazz
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As I've asked you before on the Poli Board, give me a secular reason to be against homosexual marriage and I'm all ears...
I'm not asking you to be against two men telling each other "I do" in front of their friends and family.
I'm asking you to carefully consider all sides of the issue before you agree to a fundamental change to a basic societal institution.
This is not the same as simply granting women or blacks the right to vote. That some of the same people who were against those things are against having society collectively give a sign of approval to gay marriage and equate homosexual unions with heterosexual unions doesn't mean anything.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:57 pm to HempHead
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A recessive 'gay uncle' trait could be beneficial to a hunter-gatherer tribe. An individual who does not procreate but able to contribute to the raising of children and feeding of the tribe would not be a bad thing.
That would make a case for asexuality or being born sterile (though a sterile husband ties up a valuable, viable woman), not homosexuality. Males with a higher rate of various diseases do not really benefit the tribe.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:57 pm to pwejr88
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Every single thing I do or try to do is based off religion. Can't take it away and just make up answers.
How many wives do you have?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:58 pm to MMauler
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Not in this country.
Not since 1862 you mean
we change definitions all the time. Words have whatever meaning we give them. There can be a difference between religious marriage and goverment marriage.
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:59 pm to MMauler
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Not in this country.
The entire basis of this country is designed to be able to change definitions and "long standing traditions".
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:00 pm to uway
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I'm asking you to carefully consider all sides of the issue before you agree to a fundamental change to a basic societal institution.
Which side isn't being considered?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:02 pm to TigerBait1127
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Well we change definitions all the time. Words have whatever meaning we give them. There can be a difference between religious marriage and goverment marriage.
Not by fiat. And, certainly this should never be done by judges.
I have no problem with state legislatures allowing for gay marriage. And, I certainly have no problem with the people of a state voting to allow for gay marriage. Hell, I applaud that.
But, when biased and politicized (and FEARFUL) judges just take it upon themselves to literally INVENT Constitutional rights out of whole cloth, something is wrong.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:03 pm to HempHead
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How can something that occurs not be a 'natural' phenomenon?
Murder is natural, y'all. Birth defects are natural, y'all. Homosexuality is natural, y'all.
'Cause nature.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:05 pm to Sev09
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Murder is natural, y'all. Birth defects are natural, y'all. Homosexuality is natural, y'all.
Your point?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:06 pm to TigerBait1127
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Your point?
My point is that nature contains both chaos and order. Just because something chaotic happens in nature once in a while doesn't mean it's natural.
Exists in nature <> Natural.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:08 pm to Sev09
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Just because something chaotic happens in nature once in a while doesn't mean it's natural.
It literally means that
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existing in nature and not made or caused by people : coming from nature
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:09 pm to MMauler
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udges just take it upon themselves to literally INVENT Constitutional rights out of whole cloth, something is wrong.
I agree that the gov should have stayed out of it from the beginning.
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favored leftist groups "extra ordinary" rights. Right's that have NEVER existed -- based strictly on sexual orientation.
They aren't looking for extra ordinary rights, they are looking for equal rights
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:12 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Which side isn't being considered?
I'll start a blog and link you to it one day. There's certainly no simple answer to that question, at least not one that will make sense to people who are part of a culture in which marriage, chastity, etc are so lightly regarded.
It's difficult to discuss this because so many people who agree with me are real assholes who are just angry and hate things they don't understand while so many people who agree with you are truly kind people who have just come to a new level of understanding and compassion for people dealing with same-sex attraction (as my RELIGION puts it).
So I'm afraid (actually, I am certain, as it is already happening and won't be stopped) that we are going to make this enormous change to society without really even being able to consider what it might mean in the long-term.
These conversations are almost always conducted with a lack of love and charity from either side.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:12 pm to Sev09
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Murder is natural, y'all. Birth defects are natural, y'all. Homosexuality is natural, y'all.
'Cause nature.
Well, they are natural. I'm not making an appeal to nature - that's a bad argument technique - it's just silly to say that homosexuality is 'unnatural'.
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