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re: Nathan Bedford Forrest Day in TN
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:46 am to G The Tiger Fan
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:46 am to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
Depends on what the issues are.
right... so a foreign adversary (hypothetically, but still ) strikes the continental US, and your first thought... as an American... is "well, let's hear the issues, maybe they have a point"...
This post was edited on 7/13/19 at 8:47 am
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Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:47 am to chRxis
Yes, of course. Morality comes before state.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:48 am to G The Tiger Fan
Like the morality of slavery?
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:49 am to Spirit of Dunson
quote:Nice strawman. His hypothetical didn't mention anything about slavery.
Like the morality of slavery?
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:52 am to cypresstiger
Pathetic
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:58 am to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
His hypothetical didn't mention anything about slavery.
he's pointing out your hypocrisy of celebrating a guy like Bedford while using the term "morality before state", something Bedford himself didn't adhere to, obviously...
it's not a straw man argument....
This post was edited on 7/13/19 at 8:59 am
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:04 am to chRxis
quote:The Southern states seceded because of slavery but that's not why most Southerners fought. I know Forrest owned slaves but I can't find any of his views on secession before the war. You're just inventing his reasoning for fighting, obviously...
while using the term "morality before state", something Bedford himself didn't adhere to, obviously...
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:14 am to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
seceded because of slavery
quote:
Forrest owned slaves
hmm... yes, the reason he fought IS quite the mystery, isn't it? look, i don't think the guy is the devil incarnate, okay? and yes, most of the people fighting in the CW didn't own slaves, i know that... and i'm not saying we shouldn't acknowledge the CSA, or the CW, or anything like that...
i'm saying we shouldn't be memorializing those who did choose to side with an adversary to the US... if the CSA had won, i would more than likely feel the exact same way about memorializing Lincoln, or Grant, or anyone else from the losing side...
there is a difference between remembering and memorializing, and i just don't think the latter is appropriate for any entity that opposed the US, ever...
This post was edited on 7/13/19 at 9:16 am
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:16 am to chRxis
quote:You gonna take down any more statues?
i'm saying we shouldn't be memorializing those who did choose to side with an adversary to the US
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:17 am to chRxis
They should call and see if NOLA will give them his statue
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:20 am to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
You gonna take down any more statues?
i didn't take down any of the ones that are down... i do think that those statues have their place in society... however, i happen to think those statues, of the "heroes" of the CSA, are more appropriate in a museum, or some other facility that can be freely visited, but that is not openly displayed as some sort of vague iconoclastic memorial to a clear adversary of the US
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:23 am to chRxis
No but there are statues of Geonimo, Tecumseh, etc.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:27 am to secondandshort
quote:
there are statues of Geonimo, Tecumseh, etc.
those should be taken down as well, IMO... again, straight to the museum, don't demolish them, but they do NOT need to be on display as a memorial to an adversary of the US
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:30 am to chRxis
quote:
to a clear adversary of the US
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:20 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
quote:
N.B. Forrest was an American hero who fought for limited government
To limit the government's ability to stop you from buying, selling, and owning black people, sure
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:22 am to Placebeaux
quote:
What was the name of the robot in Futurama
Bender Bending Rodriguez
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:29 am to 337Tiger19
quote:
This is already on the political board where it’s being defended and lauded. Apparently Forrest was a hero who is someone to be admired. And apparently he did like blacks, he just sold them before the war and became a founding member of the KKK, which wasn’t founded to intimidate black people, but to protect from northern tyranny.
He was a proud democrat. Sounds like a lot of other democrats.
This post was edited on 7/13/19 at 10:30 am
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:32 am to chRxis
quote:
ChRxis
Serious question, are you really that fricking retarded or are you actually having to try to do it?
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:47 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
"N.B. Forrest was an American hero who fought for limited government and was a great cavalry general."
---Alabama fan. Checks out
---Alabama fan. Checks out
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