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re: New MSY in game thread
Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Arrivals are where the meltdowns are occurring
Agreed.
All the pissing and complaining before it opened had to do with getting to the airport.
No one really thought about leaving the airport. Kinda took that for granted.
or maybe they did think about it and this is a way to keep people at the airport to get them to pay an arm for food and a leg for a drink?
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:48 pm to WeeWee
The airport has 7 'bag belts' for the airlines to use (if i remember correctly and if i had time to check my pictures on my phone) and the new system was sending all the bags to 1 or 2 of the belts. This isn't exactly a "new" system as Pittsburgh had something similar since before Katrina. If they can get it working fine then the system is really good (if its like the one in Pittsburgh).... but the people who designed the airport had a lot of missteps when 'touring and measuring' the old airport.
Like i said my buddy said the number of bags missed yesterday was pretty historic and he has been out there 20 years.
Like i said my buddy said the number of bags missed yesterday was pretty historic and he has been out there 20 years.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:49 pm to WeeWee
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After reading this article I am convinced that the people that were involved in this new airport thing are intellectually disabled. If they expected there to be issues with like the system that puts bags onto the right plane; they should have tried closing terminals or parts of terminals and moving airlines to the new terminal gradually over a couple of months instead of all at once. That way they could work the little things like making sure that bags get onto the right planes, the traffic patterns, ride sharing services, etc without it affecting everyone.
I kind of understand what you are saying, but I wonder if running two terminals - on both sides of the airfield - would have caused another set of problems that are much worse than the problems they are currently experiencing. If anything, I think such a dual system, would be insanely inefficient and while the airlines could probably figure it out, I'm not sure there would be enough non-airline staff to make that happen.
I do think that perhaps they maybe should have waited another 2 months to open and done a LOT more testing. But again, you would be testing with essentially dummy employees since all the real employees would still be needed at the old place.
When Women's Hospital in BR moved, I remember reading there were a bunch of problems the first few days. Anytime you do a complete move of a 24 hour facility, I think there are going to be some kinks.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:51 pm to WeeWee
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or maybe they did think about it and this is a way to keep people at the airport to get them to pay an arm for food and a leg for a drink?
For your theory to be true, would require the travelers to walk outside, say "nope" and then go back inside, however, they can't go back into the concourses where 98% of the food and bars are.
People spend more time at an airport before their flight, than they do after their flight. Time concerns are more critical before flight than after (in most cases).
Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:53 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:55 pm to dupergreenie
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The airport has 7 'bag belts' for the airlines to use (if i remember correctly and if i had time to check my pictures on my phone) and the new system was sending all the bags to 1 or 2 of the belts.
What is the standard?
Why would the system force everything into one or two belts? Are the belts from various ticket counters not working? Is there some kind of automated diversion system that's failed?
Honestly, the entire baggage system (in theory) is something I marvel at. I give the ticket agent (or bag drop person) my bag with a paper label attached to it, and it somehow makes it to my exact plane, and then when I land, it makes it to the exact bag claim where I have been told to wait.
There's a LOT of failure points in such a system, yet, losing bags is rare.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:01 pm to LSUFanHouston
Give me a bit to reply. Kinda long (thats what she said).... im running an errand. I'll tell you what old msy did and what was done in cities like Pittsburgh. And how this (if like Pittsburgh should have been a non issue once it opened.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:06 pm to cahoots
How’s many bars and are they big, pleasant ????
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:11 pm to dupergreenie
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dupergreenie
Also, more issues.
LINK
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Friday afternoon, the conveyor belt at the Southwest ticket counter stopped working.
Crews were loading up bags on dollies and taking them outside to the curb ticket counter until it stopped working.
I would assume that's two parts of the same system, so 2 failures?
Also looks like incoming is having baggage issues too.
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At baggage claim, dozens of travelers anxiously wait to try and pick up their luggage after waiting a half an hour.
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Carousel three shut down for several hours due to technical issues.
Seems like multiple pieces of the system are failing.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:41 pm to LSUFanHouston
Ok i am going to try to explain this as best I can with out writing a novel.
The old MSY was simple. You check into Delta, tsa screens it and places it on a belt and that belt goes 'behind a wall'. Well that belt goes straight to Deltas 'bag room' (t-point) where Delta workers separate it per flights.
(In Pittsburgh we called it 'The Matrix' so thats what I call it).
The Matrix 'version' is Delta checks a bag and is placed on a belt that runs overhead basically all of the airlines bag rooms. The bag is 'screened' on the belt and it something is 'detected' it is kicked off the 'main belt' and routed to a TSA belt to get further screening.
Each tag has a barcode on it so when it passes a scanner and it reads 'DELTA' it is kicked to the Delta belt. I think Toy Story 2 shows kind of how it works.
This never should happen (all going to 1 or 2 belts) simply because the genius engineers should have ran several runs of this before it happened (however as much time as they spent 'studying' this airport and its operation it doesn't shock me.... yes I am calling out the engineering teams on this board.
Does that explain it? If not please let me know.
The old MSY was simple. You check into Delta, tsa screens it and places it on a belt and that belt goes 'behind a wall'. Well that belt goes straight to Deltas 'bag room' (t-point) where Delta workers separate it per flights.
(In Pittsburgh we called it 'The Matrix' so thats what I call it).
The Matrix 'version' is Delta checks a bag and is placed on a belt that runs overhead basically all of the airlines bag rooms. The bag is 'screened' on the belt and it something is 'detected' it is kicked off the 'main belt' and routed to a TSA belt to get further screening.
Each tag has a barcode on it so when it passes a scanner and it reads 'DELTA' it is kicked to the Delta belt. I think Toy Story 2 shows kind of how it works.
This never should happen (all going to 1 or 2 belts) simply because the genius engineers should have ran several runs of this before it happened (however as much time as they spent 'studying' this airport and its operation it doesn't shock me.... yes I am calling out the engineering teams on this board.
Does that explain it? If not please let me know.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
Well I tried to explain why having fewer baggage claim belts would not work and I was told that I didn't know what i was talking about. If you go from 14 (i think thats what the old one had) to 6 and 1 of the 6 break then issues will occur ESPECIALLY when belts 3-6 are 'shared baggage claim belts' so its 1st come 1st serve. Theres a reason why theres a 'jazz bar' around baggage claim its so the passengers can have a full concert waiting for their bags.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 6:29 pm to fightin tigers
On board my flight. 30 minute drive from downtown at 3:30 on a Friday. No traffic to speak ok, just one long light at Vets. Dropped of 2 people and 6 bags then drove to long term parking. Parked and met them at ticketing then went to security. TSA Pre. 3 people in front of us. Walked the entire thing then pizza and beer at Midway. I’ve done this drill 500 times at the old terminal. This was honestly faster and easier. And no long, dark hike thru short term parking.
Bags may not be on this plane. Arrival may be a disaster. Who knows? But so far there’s nothing to report to confirm the forecast of a NOLA gonna NOLA “cluster.”
Bags may not be on this plane. Arrival may be a disaster. Who knows? But so far there’s nothing to report to confirm the forecast of a NOLA gonna NOLA “cluster.”
Posted on 11/8/19 at 6:33 pm to MarcusQuinn
Yall do realize that this is also a 'dead time' in msy travel. Wait until Thanksgiving, Christmas and the bowl games.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 7:15 pm to dupergreenie
Airport is incredible. Kinks will be worked out in the coming weeks. Huge huge upgrade for the region. Mitch is a POS, but He deserves credit here. Cheers.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:20 pm to dupergreenie
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Yall do realize that this is also a 'dead time' in msy travel. Wait until Thanksgiving, Christmas and the bowl games.
There are twenty days to there is no way this issues are not fixed by then.
Oh wait I forgot it's NOLA, not only will the issues not be fixed, but they will probably be sending checked bags straight to baggage claim and the bags from the arriving planes onto departing instead of baggage claim.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:24 pm to WeeWee
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wait I forgot it's NOLA, not only will the issues not be fixed, but they will probably be sending checked bags straight to baggage claim and the bags from the arriving planes onto departing instead of baggage claim.
you sound weird and jealous. ngl dude
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:41 pm to MarcusQuinn
Baggage made it. I was anticipating the worst but the entire experience was really nice. From a local passenger standpoint, It’s much better than the old terminal. Holidays will be a challenge, but considering it was day 3, it was smooth.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:42 pm to cahoots
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I can’t imagine this being a seamless experience anywhere in the world other than japan
Kansai International is still sinking in Osaka Bay.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:25 pm to WeeWee
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wait I forgot it's NOLA, not only will the issues not be fixed, but they will probably be sending checked bags straight to baggage claim and the bags from the arriving planes onto departing instead of baggage claim.
If i was allowed i would show the 'progress of fixing a baggage claim belt' with MSY. my sleeping meds are kicking in so this is probably my last post tonight.... but realize that MSY forced contract people out (well they let their contracts run out yet they were people who actually did stuff) and hired guv'ment employees who are pretty worthless.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:38 pm to fightin tigers
MSY to Cleveland Thursday morning. Southwest. Airport ingress uneventful. Very impressed with the facilities. Forty minute departure delay due to “baggage issues.”
It’s now Friday night in Hagerstown MD and I can pick up my bag in DC sometime tomorrow. Received a $400 voucher and a free toiletry kit for the inconvenience.
It’s now Friday night in Hagerstown MD and I can pick up my bag in DC sometime tomorrow. Received a $400 voucher and a free toiletry kit for the inconvenience.
This post was edited on 11/9/19 at 6:36 am
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