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re: New York Times article - How Mississippi Transformed Its Schools From Worst to Best
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:50 pm to Dire Wolf
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:50 pm to Dire Wolf
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From what I’ve read it pretty much boiled down to phonics based English and holding kids back that can’t read at 3rd grade
Mostly the former.
Even the third grade scores are vastly improved.
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:53 pm to NIH
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I’m skeptical of the “Mississippi Miracle” being anything other than juking the stats.
Read this article:
Illiteracy is a policy choice
And then listen to the podcast 'Sold a Story'.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:15 pm to Eurocat
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Mississippi schools like Hazlehurst have made academics their North Star.
Uhhhh, shouldn’t all schools do this?
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:21 pm to Eurocat
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How Mississippi Transformed Its Schools From Worst to Best
Accountability.
The teacher unions must have HATED it being implemented.
They need to disband the Department of Education.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:23 pm to Dire Wolf
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From what I’ve read it pretty much boiled down to phonics based English and holding kids back that can’t read at 3rd grade
This.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 11:34 pm to Eurocat
They have done an amazing job of improving education in Mississippi
The legislature then may have thrown it all down the drain by moving the retirement to 35 years from 30. It’s really going to be tough to get top teachers if thru they have to stay 35 year when surrounding states have 30 year retirements
The legislature then may have thrown it all down the drain by moving the retirement to 35 years from 30. It’s really going to be tough to get top teachers if thru they have to stay 35 year when surrounding states have 30 year retirements
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:23 am to SaintsTiger
One important stat in education is student growth. Perhaps this is the stat being reported in the article? Even so, it’s an impressive feat.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 12:26 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
Hazlehurst is my hometown and I live just north of it. It is a 95% black school and the remaining 5% are Latino. It was taken over by the state and few years back because it was so poorly ran by Copiah County Schools. There were teachers the with no degrees and It was really just a place for kids to go hang out during the day. Since the new administration has been appointed, they seem to really care and it has shown.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:24 am to ActusHumanus
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Adjusted based on demographics. Kids who don't score high enough in 3rd and 7th aren't allowed to take the 4th and 8th tests until they can score high enough. The Mississippi Miracle is a sham.
Yes, selection bias is the likely key to the "miracle."
LINK
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But it was the second component of the Mississippi Miracle, a new retention policy, that is likely to be the key to their success.
Third-graders who fail to meet reading standards are forced to repeat the third grade. Prior to 2013, a higher percentage of third-graders moved on to the fourth grade and took the NAEP fourth-grade reading test. After 2013, only those students who did well enough in reading moved on to the fourth grade and took the test.
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As previously mentioned, the latest NAEP data for 2024 show even more impressive, “miraculous” results on the fourth-grade literacy test scores – a tie for 8th place. Strangely though, for the eighth-grade literacy test, the state’s rank dropped to a tie for 42nd place! This should clear up any miracle illusions that may remain. Need more proof that Mississippi public education is without miracles? The 2024 NAEP fourth-grade mathematics scores rank the state at a tie at 50th! The eighth-grade scores also qualify for 50th place.
It's amazing how easy it is for public officials to cook the books on this stuff and how many gullible people eat it up.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:21 am to deeprig9
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heard a radio piece (from a conservative commentator) a month or two ago attributing MS turnaround to returning to phonics instead of whatever new age shite most schools teach now for reading.
That's the biggest piece of it I think.
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adjusted for race
This is true and untrue. If adjusted for race, Mississippi is in the top ten for "growth" not overall performance. If you go by performance alone they are in the low 20's among the states which is still a huge improvement IMO considering they were in last place for so long.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:31 am to ActusHumanus
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Their average composite ACT score is a 17.7. The proof is in the pudding.
MIssissippi is one of the few states where taking the ACT is compulsory. Going by ACT score isn't going to give an accurate data analysis.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:33 am to BigD43
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I cant help but to feel that this is due to the teachers union.
This is one factor mentioned in the article:
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The state was able to muscle through some changes, in part, because it has weak teachers’ unions, which have traditionally resisted accountability linked to standardized testing.
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