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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:44 am to austintigerdad
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:44 am to austintigerdad
Blaming The Pilot Again
Well whatta you know....more unnamed sources. He kills himself and 200+ people because he was having women problems? Not buying that....the cover up continues.
If he was hell bent on suicide, then why no note? Why fly to the ends of the earth to do it? Doesnt even make sense yet they want people to believe this.
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Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was reportedly crushed that his wife had decided to move out — and was also having problems with another women with whom he was romantically involved.
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The friend said his upset associate — who was also having problems with another woman he was seeing — may have decided to take the jet to a part of the world he'd never flown in.
Well whatta you know....more unnamed sources. He kills himself and 200+ people because he was having women problems? Not buying that....the cover up continues.
If he was hell bent on suicide, then why no note? Why fly to the ends of the earth to do it? Doesnt even make sense yet they want people to believe this.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:49 am to MrBiriwa
Was just coming to post that... Looking more and more like the pilot was on a suicide run.
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The captain of Flight 370 was in no state of mind to fly the day it disappeared and could have taken the Boeing 777 for a "last joyride" before crashing into the Indian Ocean, a fellow pilot says.
Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's world was crumbling, said the long-time associate. He had been facing serious family problems, including separation from his wife and relationship problems with another woman he was seeing.
The man, who spoke to the Herald on condition of anonymity, said Captain Zaharie was "terribly upset" when his wife told him she was leaving and believed he may have decided to take the Malaysia Airlines plane to a part of the world he had never flown in.
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:52 am to Lsut81
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The man, who spoke to the Herald on condition of anonymity, said Captain Zaharie was "terribly upset" when his wife told him she was leaving and believed he may have decided to take the Malaysia Airlines plane to a part of the world he had never flown in.
What... over an ocean? How exciting is that? Seems like, if he was hell bent on suicide, he would have tried to "see what he could get away with" and gone north.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:52 am to Lsut81
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Looking more and more like the pilot was on a suicide run.
This has been my theory all along.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:04 am to Lsut81
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Looking more and more like the pilot was on a suicide run
So the co-pilot was down with being killed as well??
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:15 am to HollierThanThou
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So the co-pilot was down with being killed as well??
Exactly...blows that theory out of the water
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:17 am to MrBiriwa
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Exactly...blows that theory out of the water
or he killed the copilot first?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:20 am to NoSaint
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or he killed the copilot first?
i just suggested that today to my commuter friend
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:20 am to HollierThanThou
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So the co-pilot was down with being killed as well??
I guess the capt killing the co-pilot isn't possible?
Pilot Programs in the turn 12 min before the "Good Night"
Co-Pilot says "Good Night"
Immediately after, Pilot throws on auto, struggle happens and he kills co-pilot
Pilot then decompresses, climbs and suffocates crew and Passengers
Systematically turns off systems while on co-pilot
Takes plane wherever he wants
Its as plausible as any other theory.
The fact that his wife left the day before and there was a mysterious call from a woman hours before the flight lend credence to him being in a bad situation.
Im not saying that is what happened, just how it could have played out.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:23 am to Lsut81
Yeah, pretty much what I think happened.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:33 am to Lsut81
So with his suicide he decided to kill 220 other people, including the crew, some of which he likely knew personally? And then decided to just fly out into the middle of nowhere to do it instead of just crashing the plane on its regular path???
Anything is possible, but I just don't see it.
Anything is possible, but I just don't see it.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:37 am to Lsut81
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I guess the capt killing the co-pilot isn't possible? Pilot Programs in the turn 12 min before the "Good Night" Co-Pilot says "Good Night" Immediately after, Pilot throws on auto, struggle happens and he kills co-pilot Pilot then decompresses, climbs and suffocates crew and Passengers Systematically turns off systems while on co-pilot Takes plane wherever he wants Its as plausible as any other theory. The fact that his wife left the day before and there was a mysterious call from a woman hours before the flight lend credence to him being in a bad situation. Im not saying that is what happened, just how it could have played out.
I really think a pilot hell bent on committing suicide would just crash the plane rather than killing the co-pilot with his hands.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:03 am to HollierThanThou
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Anything is possible, but I just don't see it.
I was in the same camp up until a few days ago... "Why the frick would he go through all of that in order to just kill himself... Why not just take it down and be done"
But the longer this drags out and the more info that comes out about the pilots situation, I'm leading more credence towards he wanted to try some crazy shite with the plane on his way out the door.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:09 am to Lsut81
If this was an accident that caused this long chain of events, then the 777 would have to be grounded to figure it out.
Think about it. A plane (that has already had some scrutiny for possible stress fractures) has an emergency.
This emergency, causes the radios and the transponder and the cars to fail. Yet keeps the autopilot on for 7 hours. It also depressurizes the plane, and vents the pilots supply of oxygen?
It could be plausible that the pilots forgot to set the cabin pressure to automatic and had it off. But this plane unlike the 737 should have a secondary reminder to tell them it is off, during climb.
It's a very easy switch to set. But it can fail like Payne Stewart, and it can be off, like Helios.
But that doesn't explain the systematic loss of data from the plane.
So if all that happened was an accident, I would like to know what on the 777 could cause that accident.
Think about it. A plane (that has already had some scrutiny for possible stress fractures) has an emergency.
This emergency, causes the radios and the transponder and the cars to fail. Yet keeps the autopilot on for 7 hours. It also depressurizes the plane, and vents the pilots supply of oxygen?
It could be plausible that the pilots forgot to set the cabin pressure to automatic and had it off. But this plane unlike the 737 should have a secondary reminder to tell them it is off, during climb.
It's a very easy switch to set. But it can fail like Payne Stewart, and it can be off, like Helios.
But that doesn't explain the systematic loss of data from the plane.
So if all that happened was an accident, I would like to know what on the 777 could cause that accident.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:15 am to Napoleon
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If this was an accident that caused this long chain of events, then the 777 would have to be grounded to figure it out.
Agreed.
People say that this is the first and only time so it shouldn't be grounded. Well should we wait until it happens how many more times before investigating?
This was not a mechanical/electrical failure. Everything that has been revealed indicates that this was a hijacking first and then we don't know.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:34 am to TigerFred
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This was not a mechanical/electrical failure. Everything that has been revealed indicates that this was a hijacking first and then we don't know.
Agreed, and if by some iota of a chance that there was a massive, comprehensive failure on the plane, it wouldn't fly for 7+ hours. From the four possibilities the Malaysians laid out, this looks like "sabotage." Hijacking implies someone other than the pilot took over the plane, I believe.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:40 am to Napoleon
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Think about it. A plane (that has already had some scrutiny for possible stress fractures) has an emergency.
Thought that was the 787
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:40 am to Topwater Trout
I doubt he killed him w his hands.
Remember, the captain was his examiner, and the co-pilot had very little experience w this plane.
All the captain had to do was get him out of the cockpit and kill him like he did every other passenger.
When co-pilot gives tower good night, captain may be taking care of ACARS out of the cockpit. Or, even more likely the captain made up some bullshite alternate scenario for the flight as a test of ATC.
The captain murder-suicide was and is most likely scenario all along.
Remember, the captain was his examiner, and the co-pilot had very little experience w this plane.
All the captain had to do was get him out of the cockpit and kill him like he did every other passenger.
When co-pilot gives tower good night, captain may be taking care of ACARS out of the cockpit. Or, even more likely the captain made up some bullshite alternate scenario for the flight as a test of ATC.
The captain murder-suicide was and is most likely scenario all along.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:40 am to AlexLSU
I'm not sure what to think about this plane anymore.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:56 am to Napoleon
quote:The commercial pilot in our family agrees with the opinion that an accidental cause is almost impossible.
So if all that happened was an accident, I would like to know what on the 777 could cause that accident.
However I still can't imagine plotting to kill yourself and then (depending on what theory you believe) either enduring the screams of 238 people for 7 hours, or flying alone for 7 hours with 238 bodies in back as you contemplate your actions. I can't recall many suicides that were intentionally that slow and full of torment.
It would take one hell of a unique individual to pull that off.
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