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Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:44 am to
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7162 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:44 am to
Blaming The Pilot Again

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Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was reportedly crushed that his wife had decided to move out — and was also having problems with another women with whom he was romantically involved.


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The friend said his upset associate — who was also having problems with another woman he was seeing — may have decided to take the jet to a part of the world he'd never flown in.


Well whatta you know....more unnamed sources. He kills himself and 200+ people because he was having women problems? Not buying that....the cover up continues.

If he was hell bent on suicide, then why no note? Why fly to the ends of the earth to do it? Doesnt even make sense yet they want people to believe this.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84279 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:49 am to
Was just coming to post that... Looking more and more like the pilot was on a suicide run.

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The captain of Flight 370 was in no state of mind to fly the day it disappeared and could have taken the Boeing 777 for a "last joyride" before crashing into the Indian Ocean, a fellow pilot says.

Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's world was crumbling, said the long-time associate. He had been facing serious family problems, including separation from his wife and relationship problems with another woman he was seeing.

The man, who spoke to the Herald on condition of anonymity, said Captain Zaharie was "terribly upset" when his wife told him she was leaving and believed he may have decided to take the Malaysia Airlines plane to a part of the world he had never flown in.


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Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:52 am to
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The man, who spoke to the Herald on condition of anonymity, said Captain Zaharie was "terribly upset" when his wife told him she was leaving and believed he may have decided to take the Malaysia Airlines plane to a part of the world he had never flown in.


What... over an ocean? How exciting is that? Seems like, if he was hell bent on suicide, he would have tried to "see what he could get away with" and gone north.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
38678 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:52 am to
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Looking more and more like the pilot was on a suicide run.


This has been my theory all along.


Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6270 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:04 am to
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Looking more and more like the pilot was on a suicide run


So the co-pilot was down with being killed as well??
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7162 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:15 am to
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So the co-pilot was down with being killed as well??



Exactly...blows that theory out of the water
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12575 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:17 am to
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Exactly...blows that theory out of the water


or he killed the copilot first?
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:20 am to
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or he killed the copilot first?


i just suggested that today to my commuter friend
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84279 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:20 am to
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So the co-pilot was down with being killed as well??



I guess the capt killing the co-pilot isn't possible?


Pilot Programs in the turn 12 min before the "Good Night"
Co-Pilot says "Good Night"
Immediately after, Pilot throws on auto, struggle happens and he kills co-pilot
Pilot then decompresses, climbs and suffocates crew and Passengers
Systematically turns off systems while on co-pilot
Takes plane wherever he wants

Its as plausible as any other theory.

The fact that his wife left the day before and there was a mysterious call from a woman hours before the flight lend credence to him being in a bad situation.


Im not saying that is what happened, just how it could have played out.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
38678 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:23 am to
Yeah, pretty much what I think happened.

Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6270 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:33 am to
So with his suicide he decided to kill 220 other people, including the crew, some of which he likely knew personally? And then decided to just fly out into the middle of nowhere to do it instead of just crashing the plane on its regular path???

Anything is possible, but I just don't see it.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69721 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:37 am to
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I guess the capt killing the co-pilot isn't possible? Pilot Programs in the turn 12 min before the "Good Night" Co-Pilot says "Good Night" Immediately after, Pilot throws on auto, struggle happens and he kills co-pilot Pilot then decompresses, climbs and suffocates crew and Passengers Systematically turns off systems while on co-pilot Takes plane wherever he wants Its as plausible as any other theory. The fact that his wife left the day before and there was a mysterious call from a woman hours before the flight lend credence to him being in a bad situation. Im not saying that is what happened, just how it could have played out.


I really think a pilot hell bent on committing suicide would just crash the plane rather than killing the co-pilot with his hands.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84279 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:03 am to
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Anything is possible, but I just don't see it.


I was in the same camp up until a few days ago... "Why the frick would he go through all of that in order to just kill himself... Why not just take it down and be done"


But the longer this drags out and the more info that comes out about the pilots situation, I'm leading more credence towards he wanted to try some crazy shite with the plane on his way out the door.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73820 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:09 am to
If this was an accident that caused this long chain of events, then the 777 would have to be grounded to figure it out.

Think about it. A plane (that has already had some scrutiny for possible stress fractures) has an emergency.

This emergency, causes the radios and the transponder and the cars to fail. Yet keeps the autopilot on for 7 hours. It also depressurizes the plane, and vents the pilots supply of oxygen?

It could be plausible that the pilots forgot to set the cabin pressure to automatic and had it off. But this plane unlike the 737 should have a secondary reminder to tell them it is off, during climb.

It's a very easy switch to set. But it can fail like Payne Stewart, and it can be off, like Helios.

But that doesn't explain the systematic loss of data from the plane.

So if all that happened was an accident, I would like to know what on the 777 could cause that accident.

Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27852 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:15 am to
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If this was an accident that caused this long chain of events, then the 777 would have to be grounded to figure it out.


Agreed.

People say that this is the first and only time so it shouldn't be grounded. Well should we wait until it happens how many more times before investigating?

This was not a mechanical/electrical failure. Everything that has been revealed indicates that this was a hijacking first and then we don't know.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:34 am to
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This was not a mechanical/electrical failure. Everything that has been revealed indicates that this was a hijacking first and then we don't know.


Agreed, and if by some iota of a chance that there was a massive, comprehensive failure on the plane, it wouldn't fly for 7+ hours. From the four possibilities the Malaysians laid out, this looks like "sabotage." Hijacking implies someone other than the pilot took over the plane, I believe.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84279 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:40 am to
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Think about it. A plane (that has already had some scrutiny for possible stress fractures) has an emergency.


Thought that was the 787

Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24659 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:40 am to
I doubt he killed him w his hands.

Remember, the captain was his examiner, and the co-pilot had very little experience w this plane.

All the captain had to do was get him out of the cockpit and kill him like he did every other passenger.

When co-pilot gives tower good night, captain may be taking care of ACARS out of the cockpit. Or, even more likely the captain made up some bullshite alternate scenario for the flight as a test of ATC.

The captain murder-suicide was and is most likely scenario all along.
Posted by au21tigers
Thursday
Member since Nov 2009
12548 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:40 am to
I'm not sure what to think about this plane anymore.
Posted by austintigerdad
Llano County, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1884 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 10:56 am to
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So if all that happened was an accident, I would like to know what on the 777 could cause that accident.
The commercial pilot in our family agrees with the opinion that an accidental cause is almost impossible.

However I still can't imagine plotting to kill yourself and then (depending on what theory you believe) either enduring the screams of 238 people for 7 hours, or flying alone for 7 hours with 238 bodies in back as you contemplate your actions. I can't recall many suicides that were intentionally that slow and full of torment.

It would take one hell of a unique individual to pull that off.
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