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Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:44 pm to
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one of trumps greatest accomplishments of any president in getting a vaccine out on record time during a pandemic

And then

He hires a nut case that then nukes future egressing of the technology used to do the above


Trying to create an effective vaccine was a worthwhile endeavor, and evolving your opinion as more information becomes available is the responsible thing to do.

Trump won’t admit that though because it’s viewed as a “defeat” which is his fault and the media/publics. No one can be honest so no one is willing to do so
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:44 pm to
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He has emboldened all the idiot anti-vaxxers to not vaccinate their kids.


Anti-vaxxers are self-correcting social problems.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:45 pm to
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Miss. Anyone that thinks that ill-informed idiot has any business directing health policy is weak and soft.


Where did I say that?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110067 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Trying to create an effective vaccine was a worthwhile endeavor, and evolving your opinion as more information becomes available is the responsible thing to do.
Why in the frick is nuking mRNA research a good idea? Nothing, NOTHING, reputable says that makes any sense

Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5084 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:47 pm to
RFK jr doesn’t believe in germ theory. He writes about it in his book. He doesn’t believe that germs enter our body and make us sick.

It’s not some secret. He talks about it.

That’s the head of our nations’s health
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Why in the frick is nuking mRNA research a good idea?


From a science or fiscal responsibility of government perspective?

I’m not sure those have the same answer
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110067 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:49 pm to
Both. Before COVID ruined people’s minds mRNA technology was praised by everyone. The research absolutely should be supported

It has potential in so many areas
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:50 pm to
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Both


I’m not sure I agree with this
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
38677 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:51 pm to
I was saying he's a '"miss"
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22636 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:53 pm to
Medicine is for woke libtards. No one ever got cancer back when we were using leeches and balancing our humours. Really makes you think
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:54 pm to
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From reducing staff at federal health agencies and cutting funding from state and local public health agencies t


Quote for us all the parts of the Constitution that establish a Federal Health duty in the first place. The nation survived for almost 200 years without any federal health service just fine.

Then justify my tax dollars earned in La should be used for residents in another state which means that money is not available for La to be potentially self sufficient for health services.

After that we can get into stuff like supporting foreign countries sex education and contraception and the alphabet people agendas.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:54 pm to
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He has no business being where he is and we are screwed probably in the near future.


What I fear is that he will eliminate vaccinations for school children, “traditional vaccinations” such as flu, pneumonia, shingles and others. Flu, especially, would flare up incredibly fast and kill many.

One of the ironies of the coronavirus pandemic was that the lockdown had the indirect effect of holding flu cases and deaths to the lowest number in decades.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:55 pm to
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One of the ironies of the coronavirus pandemic was that the lockdown had the indirect effect of holding flu cases and deaths to the lowest number in decades.


You have no idea if that’s true or not
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39524 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:55 pm to
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Welcome back, measles.



He's historically all against Hepatitis B vaccination, including a nonsensical reference he made on Twitter about how the CDC covered up some internal study about supposed increased autism risk associated with vaccines.

There is no increased risk, of course, but for some reason, the fact that something like 60% of infants born to HBV positive fathers had HBV by the time they are one, and around 90% of infants eventually develop chronic HBV infection as well as a lifetime of possible sequalae is not mentioned when discussing HBV vaccination. He is unbelievably dishonest, doesn't understand the things he says, and is only in that position not due to merit or some deep understanding of the nuances of immunology, but because of his last name.

Regardless, for each and every childhood vaccine (except for COVID as childhood infection appears milder than adult infection), I can point to a litany of horrible sequalae of childhood infection that can cause lifelong consequences, including death. Unfortunately, battling the nonsense around vaccines will be something I will likely have to do the rest of my career.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66991 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:57 pm to
Or, flu cases just got labeled Covid.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:57 pm to
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except for COVID as childhood infection appears milder than adult infection




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Unfortunately, battling the nonsense around vaccines will be something I will likely have to do the rest of my career.


You’re full of shite generally, but if you weren’t not being a liar would help you in this endeavor
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 10:00 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14215 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:58 pm to
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What I fear is that he will eliminate vaccinations for school children,

Good thing he's not advocating for that then, isn't it?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
149252 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:00 pm to
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What an idiot. mRNA vaccines are the safest ever.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39274 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:03 pm to
If you’re a fricking moron with a famous last name and the ability to bend the knee and lick boot, you too can grow up to nuke a shitload of valuable research

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39524 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:05 pm to
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Then justify my tax dollars earned in La should be used for residents in another state which means that money is not available for La to be potentially self sufficient for health services


Generally, the pattern has been that basic research performed through government grants has lead to massive windfalls for the private sector, producing incredible gains from very little initial investment. Recombinant DNA technology, developed through NIH grants in the late 60's and early 70's, first showed promise when it was used to create biosynthetic insulin, and recombinant DNA technology is the cornerstone of modern biotechnology. The idea is that the initial investment has produced 'X' amount of return in terms of GDP. And frankly, the role of grant-giving institutions should be to fund research that is not necessarily at the stage where it can attract private investment. That is the model that the US has followed since the 1970's, and it has been possibly one of the best investments the US has ever made.
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