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re: OLOL Hospital Level of Care
Posted on 6/2/15 at 10:19 pm to CaptainJ47
Posted on 6/2/15 at 10:19 pm to CaptainJ47
In this case... It can ONLY help. She will not be missed.
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 10:26 pm to andouille
I personally had multiple very good experiences at Oschner fwiw.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 10:41 pm to andouille
Ocshners had saved my life too many times for me to go anywhere else
Posted on 6/2/15 at 10:50 pm to andouille
More than once I've heard this. I have personally not experienced OLOL, but a close friend brought his mother since expansion and had since switched to brg.
All the best for your family member.
All the best for your family member.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:09 pm to Chrisgriffin
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I work at OLOL. The care is entirely dependent upon who the attending is, as well as the nurses. I work along side some fantastic nurses, but also know tons who don't know their head from a hole in the ground. With the high turn around rate, they hire nothing but new grads and this is where a lot of the incompetency comes into play.
Their salaries are so low that they will only be able to attract new grads or less than optimal talent
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:14 pm to CaptainJ47
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Well they did just lose their Chief Nursing Officer so maybe that will help, or could hurt, things
This is a very good thing.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:44 pm to lsunurse
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Wow what an incompetent nurse. That's horrible that happened to your family and can understand it causing you to distrust nurses. With electronic charting and having barcodes of meds and patient armbands that scan (both med and patient) medical errors like that are not as likely to happen.
As a nurse I have to take up for nurses and say we aren't all idiots that need to be watched over by patient's families. As for OLOL.....I worked there years ago. Worked with some outstanding nurses that I would trust to care for my child if I was a parent. That hospital though....not shocked at the reviews to be honest. I've always heard good things about the Peds floor there (even after I left).....not so much the regular adult floors. Keep in mind though....they give the nurses on adult floors (besides the ICUs) way more patients than on a Peds floor. I may have 5 kids to care for during my 12 hour shift.....the nurse on the regular adult floor may have 6-8 adults.
Nurse, I know you are a frequent poster on this board but I must question your line of thinking in this instance.
While I respect your expertise in nursing I don't think your defense of nurses in general accurately applies to the crisis in LA healthcare.
OLOL is becoming a State run hospital pure and simple. The diocese are glad to accept money for welfare patients in exchange for funding. This hospital is a great example of how the new healthcare system we have can water down the care for the few paying customers via the drain on the system from the "many".
Defend nurses if you must but do so with the realization that even the best nurse can only be as good as the system he/she is in.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:03 am to TigersSEC2010
I havent been in a baton rouge hospital in more than 15 years and ive never worked in one, but they used to be good. All I know is what I hear.
I always tell my friends to make friends with your nurses and get to know them.
You will be able to tell the good ones from the bad fairly easily. Bribery is always good bring a six pack of cokes, doughnuts, cookies, whatever and say thanks. I learned this from my father way before i was an RN.
Get to know who the charge nurses are and make use of them. If you think your nurse doesnt know what they are doing then speak up and request another. Youll see your doctor once a day if things are going well but your nurse is there the whole shift and if they are any good they will know what is going on.
Im no fan of Obama care but to blame all this on the ACA is too easy a punching bag.
The problem has been a long time in coming. Way before anyone ever heard of the current president. There is so much waste and greed in healthcare it isnt funny.
OLOL has a nursing school and i think BRG does also. They hire a lot of new grads because they are cheap. Look around the nurses station and see if they all look very young, worry! If there is no old hand to teach them anything or lead/guide them???
Don't think im nurse bashing b/c im not. Its an institutional problem if they cant properly staff thr floors. I didnt go to work in BR b/c the pay was so low. If people arent treated well, trained well, staffed well and rewarded appropriately then they will leave and find a job that will do these things. When i travel nursed in California there were so many nurses from th south it wasnt funny. They just couldnt see staying and not getting paid what they are worth. I finally left and moved to texas to get paid a decent salary.
So the hospitals are constantly training new nurses and 2 years later doing it all over again because "nurses are a dime a dozen". I heard that out of an administrators mouth.
But if people were properly trained, staffed and remunerated then this thread would not exist. So i wonder what that is worth to a hospital
Ask your nurse what the nurse patient ratio is? If it is high like 6 or more to one, then complain to management. Patient care cant be done right or well consistently when a nurse is spread that thin. Especially if the acuity of the patients are high or if a patient suddenly becomes unstable. .
I could go on but i gotta get off the soapbox and get to sleep. Gotta work tomorrow
I always tell my friends to make friends with your nurses and get to know them.
You will be able to tell the good ones from the bad fairly easily. Bribery is always good bring a six pack of cokes, doughnuts, cookies, whatever and say thanks. I learned this from my father way before i was an RN.
Get to know who the charge nurses are and make use of them. If you think your nurse doesnt know what they are doing then speak up and request another. Youll see your doctor once a day if things are going well but your nurse is there the whole shift and if they are any good they will know what is going on.
Im no fan of Obama care but to blame all this on the ACA is too easy a punching bag.
The problem has been a long time in coming. Way before anyone ever heard of the current president. There is so much waste and greed in healthcare it isnt funny.
OLOL has a nursing school and i think BRG does also. They hire a lot of new grads because they are cheap. Look around the nurses station and see if they all look very young, worry! If there is no old hand to teach them anything or lead/guide them???
Don't think im nurse bashing b/c im not. Its an institutional problem if they cant properly staff thr floors. I didnt go to work in BR b/c the pay was so low. If people arent treated well, trained well, staffed well and rewarded appropriately then they will leave and find a job that will do these things. When i travel nursed in California there were so many nurses from th south it wasnt funny. They just couldnt see staying and not getting paid what they are worth. I finally left and moved to texas to get paid a decent salary.
So the hospitals are constantly training new nurses and 2 years later doing it all over again because "nurses are a dime a dozen". I heard that out of an administrators mouth.
But if people were properly trained, staffed and remunerated then this thread would not exist. So i wonder what that is worth to a hospital
Ask your nurse what the nurse patient ratio is? If it is high like 6 or more to one, then complain to management. Patient care cant be done right or well consistently when a nurse is spread that thin. Especially if the acuity of the patients are high or if a patient suddenly becomes unstable. .
I could go on but i gotta get off the soapbox and get to sleep. Gotta work tomorrow
Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:20 am to AndyCBR
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Defend nurses if you must but do so with the realization that even the best nurse can only be as good as the system he/she is in.
I hope you aren't trying to say that "poor people" hospitals naturally give horrible care. Cause if that is the case.... I know many healthcare workers that will strongly disagree with you.
Staffing issues in nursing is a NATIONWIDE issue. And it's not a new issue at all. Any time hospitals(they are a business too, don't forget) face budget issues....cutting back on staffing and raising nurse to patio ratios(making the nurses take more patients) is one of the easiest way for them to save money. Obamacare has hurt hospitals all over the US...not just LA.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 1:12 am to lsunurse
Nurse where you at? Head on over to the LNST 
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:24 am to andouille
As an RN that works there I can tell you since EKL and BRG mid city ERs have closed we are understaffed, overworked and underpaid compared to other hospitals in the area. And as a patient/family member you are only seeing your small little perspective. I got 12 hours shifts without drinking water/eating or using the bathroom because we are so slammed routinely. And there is a good chance if we aren't taking care of you directly, we are charting/putting in orders/making phone calls to move the process along OR taking care of one of our other 5-6 patients that are more urgent than you at the time. But I'd prefer all of you complainers to go to a different hospital I'd be a way better nurse with only 4-5 patients. Dueces
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:46 am to Chrisgriffin
6 years ago I spent 30 days in the cancer ward, 5th floor I believe, and I came across some incredible nurses along with some that I had to ask not to return to my room. I had a surgery at BRG and thought the people and place were phenomenal.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:22 am to andouille
The General has much better ER MDs. Best hospital I've ever worked.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:47 am to Lithium
I*'m not blaming Obama, Jindal or anyone other than the people who run the hospital. Have you EVER gone down Essen Blvd when OLOL is not building and expanding??? They now have a bigger hospital than they can manage and incompetent people from top to bottom.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 6:14 am to lsunurse
I can vouche for the 3rd floor at OLOL being excellent (3rd floor is children). Unfortunately, we've had to bring both kids to OLOL over the last two years. I was very impressed.
And I went into it thinking, "oh shite this is OLOL."
And I went into it thinking, "oh shite this is OLOL."
Posted on 6/3/15 at 6:25 am to LSU8654722
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BR hospitals are pretty bad. Of course, If I graduated in the top half of my med-school class, I wouldn't go work in Louisiana either. So BR gets the University of Barbados and University of Phoenix online Dr's. If you're not immediately needing help, I'd go to Houston and pay whatever insurance wont cover out of pocket. You'll probably still save money considering they will get it right the first time.
This is the most stupid thing I've read here in awhile and I've read the stupid in this thread.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 6:30 am to bencoleman
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Ocshners had saved my life too many times for me to go anywhere else
This! To this date, they are still keeping me alive.
My last trip to OLOL like to kill me. Went to the small local hospital ER. They know my heart history, stabilized me and flew me to OLOL. Waiting in there ER t see a doctor I had flat lined twice. Still no doctor around. Only thing that kept me live was my CRT-D.
Another time I had ripped out a picc line. Took them over 8 hours to replace it. All that time I was without the meds I was suppose to be on.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 6:56 am to fishfighter
The first thing I ask a nurse is where she graduated from. Based on my hospital experience in work and as a patient it matters a GREAT deal. If they say ULM then I am less anxious and put a little a ease. If they say anywhere else (in north La.) I am on guard and worried. Not saying this is 100% true because I know there are great RNs from other colleges but in general it is definitely true. ULM nurses know their stuff - and as everyone knows, ULM nursing program ranks second in the south.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:59 am to andouille
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Why does gov't run mean total incompetence? It usually does, from TSA to the DMV, but OLOL is run by the Franciscans. From the eye rolls to the idiocy, it looks like "it's just old white people, who cares? frick 'em."
I dont think the ACA has done any hospitals any favors lately, but OLOL has had many problems that predate that legislation. And the governor certainly hasnt helped OLOLs situation. I generally agree with this statement...
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Im no fan of Obama care but to blame all this on the ACA is too easy a punching bag.
The problem has been a long time in coming. Way before anyone ever heard of the current president. There is so much waste and greed in healthcare it isnt funny.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 8:14 am
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:16 am to jeffsdad
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The first thing I ask a nurse is where she graduated from. Based on my hospital experience in work and as a patient it matters a GREAT deal. If they say ULM then I am less anxious and put a little a ease. If they say anywhere else (in north La.) I am on guard and worried. Not saying this is 100% true because I know there are great RNs from other colleges but in general it is definitely true. ULM nurses know their stuff - and as everyone knows, ULM nursing program ranks second in the south.
The real world and nursing school world are 2 totally different things though. You will have outstanding nurses that graduated "lesser" schools (in your opinion) and you will have horrible nurses that graduated top nursing programs. Like someone else mentioned....if you work at a place with a high turnover chances are that many of the experienced nurses have left because they know better than to be treated like dog crap by the hospital and can find another nursing job....leaving mostly all new grad nurses just happy to have a nursing job out of school working. That can be incredibly dangerous in some situations. Part of being a new grad in your work environment is learning from the more experienced nurses. There are things learned as a nurse that only are learned through experience and over time and not even the top nursing programs in the nation can teach. I would have been terrified as a new grad if I didn't have those more seasoned nurses working with me that could help guide me and that I could bounce questions off of in caring for my patients.
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