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Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:02 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
yeah, deadlifts and squats are on leg day for me
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:09 pm to GEAUXT
I've been on a legs/push/pull/off split for a while and it's been working quite well.
That being said, regarding the OP my shoulder workouts fall on "push" day with chest. Pull day is all back.
and also...
That being said, regarding the OP my shoulder workouts fall on "push" day with chest. Pull day is all back.
and also...
quote:
I do deadlifts on leg day
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:13 pm to GEAUXT
Back gets its own day brah
But why no arnold press? or bent over rows?
But why no arnold press? or bent over rows?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:14 pm to Indfanfromcol
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But why no arnold press?
i used to do arnolds, but i injured my left shoulder awhile back and am still hesitant to go heavy with dumbbells
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:15 pm to GEAUXT
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i used to do arnolds, but i injured my left shoulder awhile back and am still hesitant to go heavy with dumbbells
Understood.
I actually don't go heavy with Arnold Press ever. I usually stick with 60lb dumbbells, just because I like to have better form with that workout instead of doing huge weights anyways.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:16 pm to GEAUXT
go light w/ them then?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:18 pm to Neauxla
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go light w/ them then?
that's just crazy talk
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:21 pm to Tigerfan56
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how do you consider it back day without deadlifts? SMH
Usually warm up with some hypers and some ab bridges for about 3-4 sets.
It's different almost every wk, but today Im doing...
-Weighted chin-ups
-Barbell Bent Over Row
-Seated Cable Row - Neutral grip
Biceps in same day. All in less than 40 mins.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:22 pm to CptBengal
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BTW; I have been keeping up with 1k pullups for September
I haven't cause there wasn't an official thread.
Start one.
Only got 38 this month from my normal routine.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:24 pm to GEAUXT
quote:
that's just crazy talk
I know your joking, but I see that "can only do huge weights mentality" every day at the UREC.
I promise you can get a great workout with lighter weights. It isn't but how much you lift, it's about how hard you work that muscle.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:25 pm to lob1284
quote:
That being said, regarding the OP my shoulder workouts fall on "push" day with chest. Pull day is all back.
And this is where I'm at, philosophically - but the problem arises with trying to balance the push/pull ratio, and the secondary lifts.
Are front/side/rear delt raises considered pulls? I do them on chest/shoulder day. Are shrugs? I'm dropping flyes as mechanically unsound, but what about cable crossovers (chest)? Are they pulls?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:28 pm to Indfanfromcol
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I promise you can get a great workout with lighter weights.
Absolutely true.
Work is work and volume is volume.
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It isn't but how much you lift, it's about how hard you work that muscle.
This depends, a great deal, on your goals. If your goal is to get stronger, you have to lift progressively heavier weights. You don't have to do 1RM workouts all the time, but you have to get to 5x5, 5x3 type workouts with nothing left in the tank.
You can get hypertrophy, increased size and increased muscular endurance with significantly less than maximum exertion, no question.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:33 pm to Ace Midnight
You can get in a great workout regardless of weight. Doesn't mean it will be matching your goals.
I have however been a big believer in CT's idea that it doesn't matter the weight or the reps or the sets, just go until failure. If you get done with your second set, and you know you have nothing left, move on. If you did 3 sets and you're feeling great, keep going. But that is just my personal opinion on lifting, which has helped me in my goals.
I have however been a big believer in CT's idea that it doesn't matter the weight or the reps or the sets, just go until failure. If you get done with your second set, and you know you have nothing left, move on. If you did 3 sets and you're feeling great, keep going. But that is just my personal opinion on lifting, which has helped me in my goals.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:35 pm to GEAUXT
standing overhead barbell press
pendlay rows
deadlifts
pendlay rows
deadlifts
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:36 pm to GEAUXT
military press, pull ups, and KB swings. I add deadlifts in the winter. It's too much on my back to do them in spring/summer with yard work, gardening, etc.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:37 pm to Tiger Ryno
Monster
Cardio
Deads-to failure
Three Winstons
Muscle Milk
Repeat 6 times throughout the day.
Cardio
Deads-to failure
Three Winstons
Muscle Milk
Repeat 6 times throughout the day.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:40 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
And this is where I'm at, philosophically - but the problem arises with trying to balance the push/pull ratio, and the secondary lifts.
Are front/side/rear delt raises considered pulls? I do them on chest/shoulder day. Are shrugs? I'm dropping flyes as mechanically unsound, but what about cable crossovers (chest)? Are they pulls?
Good questions, same scenarios come up on my workouts and for the most part I let how my body feels dictate the answer. That part is easy enough because I'm doing back day 24 hours after my push workout so those muscles are still sore. I don't do shrugs, but I feel my traps after a good shoulder workout (push day) so I would obviously do that on push day. cable flys on push day since it's almost pure chest and front delts. Rear delts I can go either way, but that would pretty much be the only delt type work for me that on back day. I recently did front raises on a back day and they hurt because I was still sore from the day before, so lesson learned.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:50 pm to lob1284
Not trying to be a dick, trying to give legit advice, but if your traps are sore from shoulders day without actually doing trap workouts, your form might be off on some shoulder workouts. Maybe from Lat raises? That is one that is common to have poor form on, just because its hard to do big weight and have good form.
ETA: Unless your mixing in some full body workouts into the routine, then I am sure your traps would be sore.
ETA: Unless your mixing in some full body workouts into the routine, then I am sure your traps would be sore.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:03 pm to GEAUXT
Back day:
Lat pulls
Deadlifts
T-Bar rows
Wide grip low rows
Shoulder/trap day:
Arnolds
dumbbell side lateral raises
bent over low pulley side lateral raises
barbell shrugs
low pulley row to neck
Lat pulls
Deadlifts
T-Bar rows
Wide grip low rows
Shoulder/trap day:
Arnolds
dumbbell side lateral raises
bent over low pulley side lateral raises
barbell shrugs
low pulley row to neck
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 1:04 pm
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