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re: Parkland survivor commits suicide after survivors guilt
Posted on 3/23/19 at 12:30 am to duggieblue
Posted on 3/23/19 at 12:30 am to duggieblue
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Nineteen-year-old
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Posted on 3/23/19 at 12:34 am to Pesticide
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Something tells me she has other issues. Just an excuse for why she did it.
dick of the day award goes to...
Posted on 3/23/19 at 5:05 am to Byrdybyrd05
Reminds me of what happened in the show “Million Little Things.” Anyone watch it?
Posted on 3/23/19 at 7:40 am to OweO
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You really don't know how people deal with events they have been through.
I don't understand it...this is really hard to grasp why a survivor would feel guilt a crazy murderer wasn't successful taking them out also?
I think I'd feel very angry my young friends were murdered for no reason at all.
The only reasonable thing that comes to mind for feeling guilty is if she was one of the few who bullied that kid who murdered people that day...
very sad, I feel for the family especially the parents...
this is not right, somethings in life are unfair, and unjust and very difficult to accept.
now these parents will grieve for the rest of their lives
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 7:41 am
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:05 am to ApexTiger
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don't understand it...this is really hard to grasp why a survivor would feel guilt a crazy murderer wasn't successful taking them out also?
I think it's common to feel guilty when you survive a situation and lots of other people didn't. Especially if your best friend died as has been reported in this story. The mom also said she was having trouble going to college and being in a classroom. Even events like going to college can make you feel guilty because of the people that you were close to not going.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:39 am to Obtuse1
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How freakin' traumatic does an event have to before you don't play the "other issues" card?
Well how many other survivors have offed themselves?
A teen committed? Shocking. Let’s blame one thing for it and not consider other possibilities. Maybe she thought she was fat. Or ugly. Or got bullied.
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however, she didn’t seek help
Hmmm.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:48 am to OweO
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You are a grade A jackass. You have no idea what that young lady was dealing with as a result of the experience she went through in the school shooting
Oh, is this another of those times when everyone can only be sincere because she was cute, young, and white?
Got it. Thanks for letting us know
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:54 am to Byrdybyrd05
Goes to show how people deal with stuff..
We have her and then the media whore David Hogg who now gets preferential treatment into Harvard because of it.. he doesn’t seem to have any survivors guilt at all.
We have her and then the media whore David Hogg who now gets preferential treatment into Harvard because of it.. he doesn’t seem to have any survivors guilt at all.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:54 am to Lawyered
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he doesn’t seem to have any survivors guilt at all.
Well, he wasn't there that day, sooo.....
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:59 am to Byrdybyrd05
Looks like she dabbled in Buddhism, they believe in rebirth, so she should be ok.
I believe she is sadly dammed to hell.
I believe she is sadly dammed to hell.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 10:30 am to Displaced
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Well, he wasn't there that day, sooo.....
Was he not for real realz??
Anyway, I put this on her parents as much as anyone. Kids need to be toughened up.
I recently learned that a local all boys private school sends the 9th graders to NM or Arizona wilderness on a camping trip for like 10days. Where they actually get sent out for 24hrs of it on their own with a canteen.
We need to stop finding/building up excuses, and babying kids.
Death is sad, but suicide is the most selfish of them all.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 10:32 am to TOSOV
so this thread has gone as expected
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:14 am to TOSOV
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Anyway, I put this on her parents as much as anyone. Kids need to be toughened up.
I recently learned that a local all boys private school sends the 9th graders to NM or Arizona wilderness on a camping trip for like 10days. Where they actually get sent out for 24hrs of it on their own with a canteen.
We need to stop finding/building up excuses, and babying kids.
WTF dude. Generally, I agree with this sort of thing. But this does not apply here in the least bit. She went through am extremely traumatic event where she literally witnessed her friends, classmates, and teachers brutally murdered in front of her own eyes. And all you can say is she just needs to toughen up? She probably still hear those gunshots in her head almost everyday. She probably still remember the screams and panic running through her head.
Someone called you ugly once. Yea you can toughen up from that... Surviving a horrific event that will scar you for the rest of your life. There is no toughening up with that. I guarantee you she had a form of PTSD among other things.
Some of the responses in this thread really troubles me, tbh.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:36 am to QJenk
Toughen them up earlier. shite happens. What happened wasn't the first time, and won't be the last. If parents aren't talking to their kids about the evils of this world, to prep them, its on the parents.
I saw my first dead body when I was like 7yrs. It was a classmate of my older sister, I actually had a small crush on, that got hit while fixing the chain on her bike on the sidewalk by a drink driver. It was an open casket, and it was a lesson my parents felt best I learn.
Again...on the parents.
I saw my first dead body when I was like 7yrs. It was a classmate of my older sister, I actually had a small crush on, that got hit while fixing the chain on her bike on the sidewalk by a drink driver. It was an open casket, and it was a lesson my parents felt best I learn.
Again...on the parents.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:45 am to TOSOV
You do know there is a thing such a mental health, right?
You can prepare your kids for school where people may say mean things about them, try to fight them, etc. You can prepared them for when their boyfriend/girlfriend breaks up with them. You can't prepare someone to handle grief of losing your best friend. You definitely can't prepare someone to see their best friend killed right in front of them.
You can prepare your kids for school where people may say mean things about them, try to fight them, etc. You can prepared them for when their boyfriend/girlfriend breaks up with them. You can't prepare someone to handle grief of losing your best friend. You definitely can't prepare someone to see their best friend killed right in front of them.
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 11:53 am
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:53 am to TIGERSTORM
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think it's common to feel guilty when you survive a situation and lots of other people didn't.
Feel guilty that you survived? As though surviving is wrong...wtf. I get that you would feel something from it, but you would have to think that the ones who died want you to make a legacy and live life to the fullest.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 12:13 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Geez, a lot of posters in this thread need to know that survivors guilt only occurs in some people. Not everyone is affected identically.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 12:17 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Things like this is why community is so important. Too often I feel like people feel so disconnected from having a connection to a close group of people, helps from feeling isolated and alone.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 2:27 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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However, post-traumatic stress syndrome is one risk factor for suicide, because it forces victims to mentally relive the trauma.
Another article I had read before focused more on the fear and anxiety she had going to class and other day to day stuff not the guilt she had for being able to continue when others couldn’t.
I think the PTSD was more of the cause of suicide than survivor’s guilt or at least the see saw back & forth between them - being anxious & paranoid in a classroom fearing a repeat to when not anxious starting to feel guilty about not being anxious triggering anxiety again.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 3:48 pm to OleWar
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I believe she is sadly dammed to hell.
People believe all kinds of stupid crap.
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