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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:24 pm to
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What other rights do women have that could truly be abused by someone who just identifies as a woman. I'm genuinely asking because I don't know and you seem to.

Holy fricking shite

I have no idea man

I am saying the logic behind it


If a woman owns a buisiness, they can get grants and other federal contracts men can not get


My point is, there is a large group of people that think a man that identifies as a woman should be able to get these same benefits under the law


I am not certain if any places have actually allowed it. I am speaking to the thought process of those that believe this though
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:24 pm to
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Until we address that as a chemical imbalance rather than allowing these people to say they are how they feel, then a defense like in the OP should be valid. To me, there's no difference between a 40 year old identifying as 8 and a man identifying as a woman.



the entire point is that transgender discussion isn't based on a crime.

this particular age example is based on a crime.

I don't think you can find 12 people who would agree with each other that this man is innocent.

you can't just remove common sense for the sake of an argument. And not everything is concrete.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:24 pm to
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then a defense like in the OP should be valid. To me, there's no difference between a 40 year old identifying as 8 and a man identifying as a woman.


then I'm sorry, you are an idiot, or just being willfully dishonest

one does not argue a change in brain development, the other does

that is a massive difference, especially concerning criminal law

This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:25 pm to
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then I'm sorry, you are an idiot, or just being willfully dishonest

one does not argue a change brain development, the other does

that is a massive difference, especially concerning criminal law

Nah, both ignore biology. It's the same principal.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:25 pm to
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don't think you can find 12 people who would agree with each other that this man is innocen


I'll bet you could in Seattle or San Fran
Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:25 pm to
“I’m a trans age child” says the 40 year old man that sexually assaulted 10 girls between 6 and 12
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:25 pm to
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one does not argue a change brain development
Are you saying a man and womans brain is developed the same way?

Because, well, it isnt......
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:26 pm to
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Nah, both ignore biology. It's the same principal.


You're moving the goalposts.

I'm not arguing about ignoring biology.

You stated that the defense should be valid and that there isn't a difference.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Are you saying a man and womans brain is developed the same way?

Because, well, it isnt......


No.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:27 pm to
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I'm not arguing about ignoring biology.

You stated that the defense should be valid and that there isn't a difference.

So you're saying that there is no biological function of age?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:27 pm to
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You stated that the defense should be valid and that there isn't a difference.


I understand what you are arguing


I am saying, if the govt ever comes out and says "A person shall be identified under the law with whatever sex they choose", then I do believe this would be a 100% valid defense
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:28 pm to
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Not sure where you draw the line, we all might draw it somewhere different. Personally I'm in the "doesn't affect anyone else, I don't care" camp.
Personally, Scruffy stops the legal definition at the genetics.
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But I do know that nobody wants to draw that line at the "it's cool to diddle kids now" spot. That's a terrible spot to draw the line.


Where has anyone said that?

Scruffy repeatedly stated that it is wrong at all ages, but using the logic of this whole situation, why shouldn’t he legally be a 9 yo?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:28 pm to
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What other rights do women have that could truly be abused by someone who just identifies as a woman. I'm genuinely asking because I don't know and you seem to.


One example:

Certain percentage of government contracts are exclusively set aside for women and minority owned businesses. If your business depends on government contracts (and many do) then it is a significant leg up. A woman owned business can compete for all government contracts but a male owned business cannot.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:28 pm to
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So you're saying that there is no biological function of age?


No.

Holy shite.

How many strawmen are y'all going to throw at me?

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:28 pm to
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Pedophile Claims He's a 9 yo trapped in 38 yo Body



Can we shoot him in his 38 year old head repeatedly until he dies, hopefully quite painfully, thus freeing the 9 year old he's got trapped in there?

After first causing him great amounts of pain for long periods of time.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110080 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:29 pm to
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Certain percentage of government contracts are exclusively set aside for women and minority owned businesses. If your business depends on government contracts (and many do) then it is a significant leg up. A woman owned business can compete for all government contracts but a male owned business cannot.
Correct
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:29 pm to
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I’m a trans age child” says the 40 year old man that sexually assaulted 10 girls between 6 and 12


I guarantee you'll find psychologists and a jury in this country that would agree if he had decent council
Posted by the paradigm
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:29 pm to
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Burn him.

Slowly.

Over the course of days.

Parts of him every day. Let the flesh char and pop.

Scrub the burned flesh with lye and salt.


Leave him alive.

Force feed him honey and milk and have him sit in his own excrement as the maggots and worms devour him....



This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 4:19 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72115 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:29 pm to
you can't throw our generalities that make no sense and be all pissy about said generalities and then not be able to dive a bit deeper. Transgender man identifying as a woman isn't getting significantly different treatment because he identifies as a woman, period.

We have 1 example, I'm sure there's more, of a tranny being transferred to a women's prison. I'll agree that is fricked up, but would argue that it was a specific case and won't be some widespread epidemic.

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If a woman owns a buisiness, they can get grants and other federal contracts men can not get



transgender man identifying as a woman does not get this

quote:

My point is, there is a large group of people that think a man that identifies as a woman should be able to get these same benefits under the law



I've not seen that. Mainly just that they should be able to piss in the other bathroom. Again, this is all case-by-case.

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I am not certain if any places have actually allowed it. I am speaking to the thought process of those that believe this though



Well idk what we are even arguing at this point. That trannies get women's rights and therefore this dude should be able to get away with molesting a 9 year old because he identifies as a 9 year old?

I mean what are we even talking about
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 3:29 pm to
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I am saying, if the govt ever comes out and says "A person shall be identified under the law with whatever sex they choose", then I do believe this would be a 100% valid defense


While I would absolutely oppose this idea, I still will argue they are not the same.

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