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re: Possible Tinder Rape...in BR
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:51 pm to tigerinthebueche
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:51 pm to tigerinthebueche
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What is your definition of shaming?
she was premiscuous, she brought it all on herself, she was asking for it, bringing up past history that shows she was a slut...none of which would prevent me from reporting a rape
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:51 pm to liz18lsu
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I did what was right for me.
Im sorry that happened to you, and you're right...the decision is yours and yours alone.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:52 pm to Winkface
dude, she was acting like it was rape. that's the issue. women have a definition of rape that is so broad and completely ignores what the law says rape is. you can have a guy completely acquitted and live his life, but they'll still call him a rapist.
that's disgusting and exactly how that article comes across.
that's disgusting and exactly how that article comes across.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:52 pm to Mett's Stache
This stories about this guy from the people who know him make him sound like Elliot Rodger.
Anyone else pick up on the affluenza?
Anyone else pick up on the affluenza?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:53 pm to liz18lsu
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liz18lsu
Wow. I'm sorry to hear what happened and how you were treated. On the other hand, I think accusers who lie should have serious consequences of their own for having someone's name drug through the mud.
ETA: SFP, could a false accusation lead to a slander suit?
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:53 pm to TH03
quote:No, she's not. Did you read the first page of the article?
dude, she was acting like it was rape.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:54 pm to liz18lsu
Thanks for sharing your story. Very powerful. 
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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let's go back a page to this post:
Thanks. I missed that post.
Pretty damn funny that even when rape isn't rape it can still be rape.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:54 pm to Winkface
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I don't think she's doing this at all.
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The problem is that by going to the police and then recanting, she fit into a new story that backfires on her and on feminism in an ugly way. She becomes the false accuser, and the boys, like the Duke boys, become the victims.
or we can just simplify her sentence
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The problem is...the boys, like the Duke boys, become the victims
it's clear that she believes that the problem is that now the actual victims are, in fact, seen as the victims
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again, that's not how I read it.
what is the purpose of saying this:
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whatever happened to this girl, it wasn't the legal definition of rape.
what is she trying to add this? it's nothing close to rape because she consented. the only reason it is described as a "rape" is due to her own lies. why are we being dismissive and bringing up concepts like "the legal definition" when it truly has not place in this article?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:55 pm to liz18lsu
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and after going to the hospital, and having male staff be very condescending,
just curious...how were they condescending?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:56 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Pretty damn funny that even when rape isn't rape it can still be rape
LL was arguing the same thing earlier...something along the line sof "it's not legal rape, but still rape"
rape is a legal term. Unfortunately the brainwashed feminazis dont care.
Until every fake rape accuser has their lives destroyed, publicly reported and named, and is punished by the same sentence the man they accused faced there is no justice.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:56 pm to Winkface
the first page and most of the second page contained 0 of her opinions. the conclusion in the last paragraph gave her opinion on the facts she spent two pages outlining.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:56 pm to Winkface
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No, she's not.
Do false charges mean something different than what I'm thinking of?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:59 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Pretty damn funny that even when rape isn't rape it can still be rape.
and they won't even publish a non-victim, liar, and criminal's name
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Instead of responding to Bazelon’s argument, Reynolds wonders, “Why doesn’t she publish the accuser’s name, now that the rape is admittedly fake?” He goes on to make a pretty hefty accusation of his own: “You’re not protecting a victim now, Emily, you’re protecting a perpetrator.” Then, Reynolds remedies what he sees as a grave injustice by printing the woman’s name and linking to a story about the charges she may face. He also includes a link, provided by a reader, to a blog post that cites a number of studies claiming that false rape accusations have reached epidemic proportions. (I’ll get to those later.)
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Back at Double X’s blog, Bazelon responds to Reynolds, writing, “I’m not naming the student out of some mix of pity and sisterhood.” She admits that she is making excuses for the accuser, “because while what happened to her in the bathroom wasn’t rape, she must deeply regret it, and she probably was drunk or otherwise not thinking straight when it happened. Plus, she’s only 18. So not naming her seems like a small — if fairly meaningless — shred of compassion to offer.”
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Although the accuser appears to have fabricated the charges, millions of women really do get raped, and this case will send a message to them, too: Why bother reporting your rape when you risk having your name dragged through mud as soon as anyone suspects you might be lying?
she's not a victim. she is the criminal in this instance.
also, is y'all want some funny irony (and it relates to the discussion on false reports)
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Uh, 1 to 90? Call me crazy, but I have to assume that means just about none of this research has been at all conclusive.
yet, earlier:
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At a time when, according to the U.S. Department of Justice, 60 percent of rapes go unreported,
there is no bias in how these cases are presented, obviously
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
What? You just took two sentences and put them together. The problem is the recanting and the backfiring on her and feminism (the feminism part is stupid, I'll agree).
So you're hung up on three words? If she said, "whatever happened to this girl, it wasn't rape," would that be ok?
You're basically doing what she said was going to happen. You're proving her point.
So you're hung up on three words? If she said, "whatever happened to this girl, it wasn't rape," would that be ok?
You're basically doing what she said was going to happen. You're proving her point.
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In these moments of recantation, all we can talk about is how wrong she was. And then we lose the conversation that happens at a level beneath the law: about how these late-night moments in a random bathroom that everyone regrets can stop before they start.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP, does a false accuser run the risk of being hit with a slander or libel suit? Wouldn't that deter false accusations?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:02 pm to Winkface
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the author decries that fact that the actual victims (who spent 2 days in jail and had THEIR names all over the news) are, in fact, victims.
I don't think she's doing this at all.
That is exactly what she is doing.
The goal of this don't shame women/guys still to blame is to remove all restraints on women's sexuality while simultaneously imposing maximum restraints on men's sexuality. And that article is dripping with this agenda.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:02 pm to Winkface
You're basically doing what she said was going to happen. You're proving her point.
proving what point, that we should call something rape just because we regret it in our head? so guys are supposed to be mind readers?
that late night moment in the bathroom during which she showed nothing but consent IS NOT RAPE
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In these moments of recantation, all we can talk about is how wrong she was. And then we lose the conversation that happens at a level beneath the law: about how these late-night moments in a random bathroom that everyone regrets can stop before they start.
proving what point, that we should call something rape just because we regret it in our head? so guys are supposed to be mind readers?
that late night moment in the bathroom during which she showed nothing but consent IS NOT RAPE
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:03 pm to TH03
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You're basically doing what she said was going to happen. You're proving her point.
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In these moments of recantation, all we can talk about is how wrong she was. And then we lose the conversation that happens at a level beneath the law: about how these late-night moments in a random bathroom that everyone regrets can stop before they start.
proving what point, that we should call something rape just because we regret it in our head? so guys are supposed to be mind readers?
that late night moment in the bathroom during which she showed nothing but consent IS NOT RAPE
This. I'm really not understanding what Wink is arguing.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:04 pm to Winkface
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n these moments of recantation, all we can talk about is how wrong she was
BECAUSE SHE WAS WRONG. She lied and made something up. The whole incident wouldnt even fricking exist if not for her lies.
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And then we lose the conversation that happens at a level beneath the law: about how these late-night moments in a random bathroom that everyone regrets can stop before they start.
people are free to have that discussion...but SHE changed the story when she LIED, and FALSELY claimed people raped her, and forced INNOCENT people to spend 2 days in jail. the situation is of her own creation. frick her, she is the criminal.
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