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re: Possible Tinder Rape...in BR
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:04 pm to Winkface
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:04 pm to Winkface
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The problem is the recanting and the backfiring on her and feminism
she said "new story that backfires on her and on feminism in an ugly way"
what is that backfire? how/why is it ugly? she defined it as the victim label being shifted to the actual victims.
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So you're hung up on three words? If she said, "whatever happened to this girl, it wasn't rape,"
those words matter, though
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And then we lose the conversation that happens at a level beneath the law: about how these late-night moments in a random bathroom that everyone regrets can stop before they start.
i've avoided this sentence to not get accused of being a victim-shamer, but this is pretty much the assumption that creates this whole problem. there was no regret at the time. and feminists will argue a woman's sexual choices are her choices.
they create a shame by creating this "regret rape" possibility. that author is judging the shite out of a consentual decision of the liar-criminal, and hoping for a "conversation" to start to prevent her from making the same sexual choice again
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:06 pm to TH03
quote:noooooooooooooo
that we should call something rape just because we regret it in our head? so guys are supposed to be mind readers?
quote:I AGREE! frick.
that late night moment in the bathroom during which she showed nothing but consent IS NOT RAPE
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:07 pm to Winkface
then I have no idea what you're arguing
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:07 pm to TH03
Aren't you people tired of arguing the definition of rape by now. Jesus.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:07 pm to CptBengal
quote:agreed
BECAUSE SHE WAS WRONG. She lied and made something up. The whole incident wouldnt even fricking exist if not for her lies.
quote:agreed
people are free to have that discussion...but SHE changed the story when she LIED, and FALSELY claimed people raped her, and forced INNOCENT people to spend 2 days in jail.
the situation is of her own creation. frick her, she is the criminal.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and feminists will argue a woman's sexual choices are her choices.
they create a shame by creating this "regret rape" possibility. that author is judging the shite out of a consentual decision of the liar-criminal, and hoping for a "conversation" to start to prevent her from making the same sexual choice again
Feminist message to women:
Be as sexually free as you want, but just know that you shouldn't do it.
If I was a female I'd be so fricking confused after reading that article.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:08 pm to LesMiles BFF
*just know, if you regret it, scream rape
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this only came up in the vast minority of comments, and even then, i think all but 2 said if her story was truthful, it was rape
the majority of the discussion that i've been part of is the sticky situation presented and how false rape accusations exist AND are a serious threat for sexually active males (especially those who engage in sex after drinking).
Just in the first 3 pages, discussion of "if her story is truthful, it was rape":
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the girl sounds like a fricking slut…who immediately goes from tender straight to her apartment? some whore who is getting banged 3 times a week.
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bingo.
play the odds, and you'll get trilled
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I bet my left fricking nut she wasn't raped.
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Yup
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Yeah, probably just pissed because he came in her eyes and hair.
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I'm thinking this chick wasn't raped at all. Felt bad about banging a dude on Tinder and screamed rape. She literally has to provide zero proof and this guy's life is ruined. 10-1 says he'll eventually be found not guilty.
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So she was leading him back to the liar of lust and he just growled and pantsed her?
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so she liked it rough and wanted to go from 0 to 60 then cried rape after the fact?
seems legit
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yea, cause she just invited him over for breakfast.
she wanted the D and got it
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Sounds like she regretted what she did and decided to claim rape. Now this guy has his name and picture all over the news as an accused rapist. I feel bad for the guy.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:the backfire is what has made this thread 40 pages. The backfire is now when see a rape story in the newspaper they are suspicious about the claim.
what is that backfire? how/why is it ugly?
quote:The way I read it, she's trying to have the conversation about women not even putting themselves in this position to regret sex, any sex, in the first place.
they create a shame by creating this "regret rape" possibility.
quote:yeah, she is judging her. Aren't we all?
that author is judging the shite out of a consentual decision of the liar-criminal, and hoping for a "conversation" to start to prevent her from making the same sexual choice again
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:10 pm to TH03
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*just know, if you regret it, scream rape
ding, ding, ding. This is the answer.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:10 pm to TH03
Jesus tapdancing Christ
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:11 pm to Winkface
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the backfire is what has made this thread 40 pages. The backfire is now when see a rape story in the newspaper they are suspicious about the claim.
and that is the fault of men?
or the women who falsely claim rape?
you can't blame men for everything, ya know
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:11 pm to Winkface
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The backfire is now when see a rape story in the newspaper they are suspicious about the claim.
That's not backfire. It's a good thing. It's too easy for a girl to call rape and ruin some guy's life without a shred of evidence.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:11 pm to Winkface
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The way I read it, she's trying to have the conversation about women not even putting themselves in this position to regret sex, any sex, in the first place.
Isn't that shaming a woman's behavior?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:11 pm to Winkface
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agreed
Then why did you make this statement on the last page (page 44),
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You're basically doing what she said was going to happen. You're proving her point.
If you "agree" that her point is bullshite, how come you argued the opposite on the last page of this thread?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:12 pm to Winkface
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he backfire is now when see a rape story in the newspaper they are suspicious about the claim.
and whose fault is that? Come on now, this isnt hard.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:12 pm to TH03
quote:frick me sideways. Are yall just messing with me? SHE IS BLAMING THE LYING-CRIMINAL WOMAN!
and that is the fault of men?
or the women who falsely claim rape?
you can't blame men for everything, ya know
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:13 pm to Topwater Trout
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and after going to the hospital, and having male staff be very condescending,
The male nurse I interviewed with was very abrupt. I described what happened, how I was bent over with a hand over my mouth, how I disassociated from the act, and after the guy was done, how I was left alone with his semen dripping down my leg. He asked if I fought back - "No". Did I plan to press charges - "I don't know yet". And the last statement is what made me stop cold. He asked "So, were you raped or not?"
For someone who is very feisty, I began doubting everything. If you are being raped, you FIGHT, right? But, I didn't know this man, I had a male friend with me, I felt safe, I was sober. But how did I allow this to happen? Was it my fault? Did my clothes indicate it was ok? It was a very confusing process. I was angry at myself for cowering to this man. I was pissed that my passivity made it seem ok, and that because I didn't fight back, maybe this man thought it WAS ok. I don't know. First time I have talked about it in any length. With all the confusion, one thing is clear - I DIDN'T CONSENT TO SEX WITH HIM.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:13 pm to Winkface
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SHE IS BLAMING THE LYING-CRIMINAL WOMAN!
no she wasnt. What world do you live in?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:13 pm to Winkface
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SHE IS BLAMING THE LYING-CRIMINAL WOMAN!
sure doesn't sound like it
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