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Posted on 9/19/20 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 2:55 pm to
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But I'm going to guess that you were fine with Strom Thurmond serving as a Republican at 102.





A senator and Supreme Court Justice is not really comparing apples to apples.



Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10713 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 3:09 pm to
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I hope Democrats pull the same thing the Republicans did back in 2015 and do not play ball till the election is over.
You are someone I could NOT be friends with. Why on earth would you support democrats/being a liberal?
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13003 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 3:11 pm to
Indoctrinated children
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10700 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23968 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 4:46 pm to
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Wrong. It only requires a majority vote now to confirm a judicial nominee.

And they have Harry Reid to thank for that
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1668 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 5:08 pm to
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Never mind that literally on cnn this morning court packing was discussed as a Democrat strategy in the future.


This is the logical conclusion when there is no respect for our institutions. Republicans are essentially saying that the Senate has the ability to control when/if a sitting president is allowed to choose a Supreme Court pick, and they are applying that standard differently based on party. Any logic they used to deny Obama his pick is exposed as blatant hypocrisy. Imagine if Trump wins the election but Democrats take the Senate. Why not prevent Trump from filling any vacancy that becomes available during his second term? Why not pack the Court? So many of y’all are so overjoyed at the thought of winning that you can’t see that our institutions are being completely eroded. It’s happening on both sides, and it’s far more frightening to me than anyone Trump could possibly appoint to the Supreme Court.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88782 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 5:09 pm to
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Republicans are essentially saying that the Senate has the ability to control when/if a sitting president is allowed to choose a Supreme Court pick, and they are applying that standard differently based on party.


Except for the whole lame duck vs running incumbent thing, but that's a minor detail :lol

The left made these rules when they had the power to. Why should they not be used now?
This post was edited on 9/19/20 at 5:11 pm
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1668 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 5:26 pm to
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Except for the whole lame duck vs running incumbent thing, but that's a minor detail :lol


Obama was not a lame duck. That term is used to refer to a president who is about to leave office but needs to complete his term post election. Obama had an entire year of his last term left when a Supreme Court vacancy came open.
This post was edited on 9/19/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41107 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 5:34 pm to
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The left made these rules when they had the power to. Why should they not be used now?


People keep saying this, and it's a lie.

Democrats invoked nuclear option in 2013, making an exception for supreme court justices.

With Merrick Garland, McConnell did not offer to hear out any justices. He told Obama not to nominate one - that anyone Obama nominated would be rejected. McConnell then removed the supreme court exception with Gorsuch was up.

So, yeah, you can say this is on Harry Reid, but that's barely a half truth.

Republicans made this mess.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41107 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 5:35 pm to
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Imagine if Trump wins the election but Democrats take the Senate. Why not prevent Trump from filling any vacancy that becomes available during his second term? Why not pack the Court?


If they do take the Senate, they should obstruct Trump at every turn.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10116 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 6:01 pm to
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If they do take the Senate, they should obstruct Trump at every turn.



So just be Democrat. Got it.

They better not go on recess with appointments.

Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88782 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 6:09 pm to
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He told Obama not to nominate one - that anyone Obama nominated would be rejected


That's what happens when you have the numbers.
quote:

Republicans made this mess.


Yea ok gif
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10370 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 6:13 pm to
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So, yeah, you can say this is on Harry Reid, but that's barely a half truth.

Republicans made this mess.




Yeah the whole truth is that this is on Harry Reid. He was warned.
But he never envisioned anyone but Hillary and dems controlling things.
Democrats made this mess with all due respect.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41107 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 6:22 pm to
What Harry Reid did was bad enough. McConnell made it worse.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10116 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 6:25 pm to
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Republicans are essentially saying that the Senate has the ability to control when/if a sitting president is allowed to choose a Supreme Court pick,


The Senate does to appoint one. Not to nominate someone, but they do have the power over giving their required advice and consent to officially appoint as written in Constitution.

quote:

2.2 He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the Supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States

This post was edited on 9/19/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 6:35 pm to
Sad to see her pass, I’m sure she was a good lady and lady of faith. Disagree with much of what she ruled on politically, but that’s ok.


Saying that, Trump will appoint a SCJ before January, whoever it is will be voted in. Even if he loses, he will have appointed 3, in 4 years, that’s pretty amazing. I think he wins re-election, but regardless, a big footprint. Cry or be happy, he will put in another SCJ, Democrats can’t do anything about it, even tho they think they can
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 7:30 pm to
What are you little bitches whining about? Are you mad cause this puts a roadblock in your ability to steal the whitehouse? The rules are clear, the President can nominate anyone at anytime and the Senate decides if they get confirmed.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6787 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 8:38 pm to
If you’re worried that an 87 year old woman’s death will cause you to lose rights ... maybe the state has too much power?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
73350 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 8:45 pm to
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If they do take the Senate, they should obstruct Trump at every turn.

So....pretty much what they've done for four years?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41107 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 8:48 pm to
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The rules are clear, the President can nominate anyone at anytime and the Senate decides if they get confirmed.



Yes, they are, and that's the way it should work.

McConnell refused to do this in 2016, and he's now removed the 60 vote requirement to shoehorn in the people that he wants.

This is not a good thing. If we're going to treat the Supreme Court as a partisan entity, appointments need to be removed entirely. They should be elected by the general public.
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