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re: Recent Petroleum Grad Seeking Advice
Posted on 9/1/15 at 6:40 am to yellowfin
Posted on 9/1/15 at 6:40 am to yellowfin
Unless you know somebody you arent going to be hired as a rough neck. Too many people got laid off and the OIM knows which hands are worth a shite and which arent so he will take his guys back before he even looks at your resume. You are competing in a field with people that have way more experience than you do. Look at a different career path until the oilfield gets back.
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 6:50 am to yellowfin
Yeah "sales" in the oilfield is mostly engineers with 5-10 years experience acting as technical advisors to the customer. You have to sell the product, but you also ha e to be technically proficient with it when the reliability of your equipment is what can cause a million dollar a day operation to come to a halt. You can't just walk in the door and get that job. You start off with the jobs that he's having a hard time finding. It's a bad time and I honestly don't know where one could look. Just put your resume everywhere. About all you can do right now.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:27 am to cdav114
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If you're applying for a lower position LEAVE OFF that you have a PetE degree. You're here to work is all that they need to know. I wouldn't tell anyone at work either. Learn, work, bide your time.
THIS. They don't give two shites that you're a college grad...if anything, it'll bring unwanted attention (at least in my experience). My dad always told me "keep your mouth shut and your ears open". Once you get field experience, people are more likely to take a chance on you, because you have performed the work before in an intense way.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:45 am to KG6
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Yeah "sales" in the oilfield is mostly engineers with 5-10 years experience acting as technical advisors to the customer. You have to sell the product, but you also ha e to be technically proficient with it when the reliability of your equipment is what can cause a million dollar a day operation to come to a halt. You can't just walk in the door and get that job.
either that or be really skilled at bringing boudin and donuts to your customers every morning. It doesn't hurt to bring them on hunting and fishing trips either.
You really have to know the right people for this sales job
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:47 am to cdav114
Go Back to School...Oil Patch is a hurtin' in case you haven't heard! 
Posted on 9/1/15 at 7:59 am to cdav114
I know you say you've applied all over, but as someone who recently went through a job search in the O&G industry due to having to move for family reasons, you really need to let them know that you're willing to relocate and aren't going to make them pay for it. They don't want to waste their time flying people in for interviews from out of the region because historically people want to be close to home and even if they accepted the job initially, they jump at the chance to go back home.
I had several companies flat out tell me they wouldn't look at my resume with an out of the area address. I eventually took my address off my resume and started following up every resume with a phone call or letter letting them know that I was very excited about moving to the area, etc... Good luck and remember it only takes one person to like you.
I had several companies flat out tell me they wouldn't look at my resume with an out of the area address. I eventually took my address off my resume and started following up every resume with a phone call or letter letting them know that I was very excited about moving to the area, etc... Good luck and remember it only takes one person to like you.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:26 am to Forkbeard3777
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Assuming Graduate Bob was very good and proficient at his tasks assigned to him, he is typically a more desirable candidate in my opinion.
Obviously, if you saw him work with you. Thats not really every candidate.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:29 am to barry
Hiring manager for most companies won't even see the resume of a candidate with a 2.7. The HR software is going to discard it before a human lays eyes on it
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:37 am to cdav114
Should have majored in English Lit
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:45 am to cdav114
Apply for engineering tech job openings
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:46 am to cdav114
Good luck man. Remember that you are young, and you have a good 40 working years ahead of you. Don't let this bring you down or get too negative about your future.
I went through a very similar patch when the market turned south in 2008-2009. I was applying everywhere and had to "dumb down" my resume. I had work experience with a major, a PhD, and multiple start-up company experience, and couldn't get a call back. Real blow to your ego. Just keep pushing and stay positive. I would consider the extra year of school (masters or some other concentration courses) or taking a lower job in the industry to gain dirty hands experience.
I went through a very similar patch when the market turned south in 2008-2009. I was applying everywhere and had to "dumb down" my resume. I had work experience with a major, a PhD, and multiple start-up company experience, and couldn't get a call back. Real blow to your ego. Just keep pushing and stay positive. I would consider the extra year of school (masters or some other concentration courses) or taking a lower job in the industry to gain dirty hands experience.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:47 am to yellowfin
I had a higher up at Laitram tell me to apply after an all day tour because he was interested in hiring me. Even asked when I was available to work and my school schedule.
Then he asked my GPA. I told him, and he said dont even bother applying because it wouldnt get passed HR
Then he asked my GPA. I told him, and he said dont even bother applying because it wouldnt get passed HR
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:49 am to Hammertime
hate to say it, but GPA matters to those that hire fresh college grads. After 3 years of work experience, it will never matter again, though.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:55 am to cdav114
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I'm currently broadening my search to look for any engineering related positions whether they have anything to do with O&G
Probably a good idea considering the current state of the oil industry.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:57 am to barry
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Obviously, if you saw him work with you. Thats not really every candidate.
Fair enough. Unfortunately, the company I work for recruits only certain regional universities (University of Chicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, Illinois, etc.) and look for certain numbers. I always take on a few others from different schools with diverse backgrounds/work history. Sometimes, not always, their background and different areas of work make for a more productive employee.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 9:40 am to cdav114
I wouldn't be so quick to jump into another field just yet... When things do turn around, and they will, there will be a lot of job openings available. You are a lot cheaper to hire than the 15-20 yr hand that got laid off and looking for equivalent pay.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:00 am to The Goon
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Look for a field engineer role with slb, Halliburton, or baker Hughes.
None are hiring that I know of.
I've been approached recently about jobs in the Middle East but they are all managerial positions that require 7+ years of experience managing a job that you have 5+ years performing.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:02 am to cdav114
Focus your search on midstream...still a lot of infrastructure that needs to be built to keep up with the shale plays.
Put your resume on rig zone and utilize indeed.com for active searches involving oil and gas. Also, broaden your search outside of engineering specific jobs and in support functions (procurement, HR, project services, etc.). You can always ease into a engineering job when the market turns but getting into the door appears to be your main objective.
Good luck
Put your resume on rig zone and utilize indeed.com for active searches involving oil and gas. Also, broaden your search outside of engineering specific jobs and in support functions (procurement, HR, project services, etc.). You can always ease into a engineering job when the market turns but getting into the door appears to be your main objective.
Good luck
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 10:06 am
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:20 am to Deactived
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but I know there are a lot of people that post here with lots of experience in the field and I figure I should exhaust all my options.
For the past few years on the OT, half of the talk about the petroleum industry was pete undergrads bragging about they will all be making 80 grand straight out of college.
Hopefully they chime in and help although I haven't seen any in the thread so far
Become an engineer The OT said.
(Insert OP crying)
You will make tons of money The OT said.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:42 am to maqueschoux
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When things do turn around, and they will, there will be a lot of job openings available.
This is the main thing to focus on, you have to take the bad with the good when you work in oil & gas
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