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re: Robert E. Lee monument coming down NOW
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:48 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:48 pm to fightin tigers
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:48 pm to ihometiger
Those cops should have some honor and resign instead of work for bitch Mitch
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:49 pm to RedPop4
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Or Lord forbid the Legislature pass a law which John Bel won't sign or veto, but the ol' pocket veto...let it sit on his desk until it dies.
An unsigned bill actually becomes law if it is not signed of vetoed within a certain time limit
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Louisiana - The governor must sign or veto legislation within 10 days of transmittal, or it becomes law without his/her signature. Legislation transmitted with less than 10 days remaining in the session must be acted upon by the governor within 20 days of transmittal, or it becomes law without being signed.
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:49 pm to ihometiger
WDSU will have a front row seat to this shite show. Let's see if our press will ask the hard hitting questions.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:50 pm to fightin tigers
It is commonly referred to as a lift plan and the detail included would be swing radius, weight of total lift, angle of lift, and any hazards which may be present.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:51 pm to Hogjaw
If it's just paperwork, they'll have that on file, somewhere by the time anyone gets close enough to look, which will be years.
You all act as if the Mayor is actually concerned with ANYTHING other than destruction of historical monuments.
Get it through your heads, this is not a regular job. This is Mitch Freaking Landrieu, and they MUST COME DOWN and RIGHT FREAKING NOW. I mean, y'all, he has snipers at every one of these, he's willing to kill for this, you think he's worried about OSHA, permits, plans, and what not? It's "fireman, climb up there and put this strap..."
You all act as if the Mayor is actually concerned with ANYTHING other than destruction of historical monuments.
Get it through your heads, this is not a regular job. This is Mitch Freaking Landrieu, and they MUST COME DOWN and RIGHT FREAKING NOW. I mean, y'all, he has snipers at every one of these, he's willing to kill for this, you think he's worried about OSHA, permits, plans, and what not? It's "fireman, climb up there and put this strap..."
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:51 pm to Bushmaster
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It is commonly referred to as a lift plan and the detail included would be swing radius, weight of total lift, angle of lift, and any hazards which may be present.
which... as we can all see... are plentiful
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:52 pm to Bushmaster
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It is commonly referred to as a lift plan and the detail included would be swing radius, weight of total lift, angle of lift, and any hazards which may be present.
I would assume they have this. Or at least for the crane they are playing with PGT and REL they do.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:53 pm to Bushmaster
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commonly referred to as a lift plan and the detail included would be swing radius, weight of total lift, angle of lift, and any hazards which may be present
They're just gonna run a few straps between old Lee's crotch and lift.
It's the only point where they can get a firm grasp on the structure.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:55 pm to arseinclarse
thanks. 
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:58 pm to Bushmaster
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This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:01 pm to JS87
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This guy is a trip, everyone needs to watch him. He speaks the truth!
Good stuff.
I also get very frustrated as someone that lives far from New Orleans watching so many of my state tax dollars being funneled into New Orleans.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:03 pm to RedPop4
I'm certainly no lawyer and the City's power may trump all else here, but authorities other than the City have halted projects when there's a question as to appropriate license or permit.
It's too obvious to have not already been researched, but I'm just saying....
It's too obvious to have not already been researched, but I'm just saying....
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:03 pm to Perrydawg
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I have never seen a crane company let anyone use their equipment without having their operator run the crane. No insurance company would write them a GL policy to lease that piece of equipment out.
Bruh every rental company in the world bare leases their equipment, or if you chose you may ask them to provide an operator.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:03 pm to fightin tigers
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Yes. Two crane accidents. One didn't follow manufacturers procedures the other I'm not sure of the root cause. Sounds like one may have had a plan it was just shite, or not followed
Dude, there are countless examples of cranes killing people across the world I could link, with people that are far more qualified than the mickey mouse operation that's going on tonight. There's plenty more examples I can choose from- recently- where people are killed because of stupid bosses and even more stupid personnel.
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That still leaves me with the question. What legally requires this to need a PE stamped?
I am ignorant to some La laws on lifts, but I am reaching at what requires the PE stamp.
Legally speaking in Louisiana I have no idea. That should not be mistaken for thinking that one should not be used. There's a million things I can think of that could go wrong with this.
1)Hitting electrified wires
2)Cables snapping
3)Crane tipping due to many things (wind, unstable load, unsuitable load...) Which can either cause it to injure, kill, or destroy adjacent properties
4)Soil giving way or concrete breaking and then a stability failure in the area
5)Undermining adjacent buildings
6)Statue falling due to poor rigging
There's a lot more too. I am sure the operator has thought of all of these, and is qualified to structurally analyze all of this, right?
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:03 pm to Kingpenm3
The annualized pace of shootings in New Orleans, 2010 to 2017. One of these things is not like the others. Notice the uptick in violence since the monuments started being taken down by Landrieu.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:05 pm to Hogjaw
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Private contractors working on a City contract, P
God damn y'all are hard headed.
NOPD and NOFD are not private contractors
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:08 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Legally speaking in Louisiana I have no idea. That should not be mistaken for thinking that one should not be used. There's a million things I can think of that could go wrong with this.
My entire question wasn't IF one was done, but what reason one would be needed.
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There's a lot more too. I am sure the operator has thought of all of these, and is qualified to structurally analyze all of this, right?
No doubt a ton of shite could go wrong. They won't engineer their way out of it though. They know how much about it weighs and probably have a good idea of it is attached.
If there is faulty ground then yes. But in New Orleans that is true no matter what.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:10 pm to tgrbaitn08
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God damn y'all are hard headed.
NOPD and NOFD are not private contractors
At least it's not my tax dollars (anymore) that's going to be used if this operation goes south and one of them gets killed or seriously injured from the mental midgets running this thing.
I am sure that's reassuring to their families, too.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 3:14 pm to JS87
I have not gotten into this tearing shite down thing.... but how does a statue bother anyone?????
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