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re: Roe v Wade officially overturned
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:46 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:46 pm to lsupride87
Ballot harvesting, mail in voting, and straight cheating caused 2020. The whole suburban mom thing is bullshite
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:48 pm to GRTiger
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I'm pretty sure he just repealed most of the 10th amendment with this logical rollercoaster
The Tenth Amendment has already been greatly restricted by the Fourteenth Amendment. That has been established Constitutional doctrine for a while now.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:48 pm to lsupride87
I know. I feel like I am right-leaning more and more as I get older, but I really just have zero interest in the abortion debate. The only thing that gives me any desire to dunk on libs today is they have become very authoritarian on several issues and the "my body my choice" was a disgrace when it came to the COVID vax.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:51 pm to Deactived
I don't know, man. It may be a skewed sample because they are all libs, but nearly every woman in my close and extended family has severe TDS. This counts for something.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:56 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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The Tenth Amendment has already been greatly restricted by the Fourteenth Amendment. That has been established Constitutional doctrine for a while now.
And technically speaking, the restrictions are likely unconstitutional unless imposed by an amendment. This ruling could be a game changer for way more than abortion or irrelevant social issues.
The 10th amendment is much more relevant to your argument than the 9th. Otherwise we better start rolling back gun control in blue states (and probably red states too.)
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:58 pm to Pettifogger
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I'm bumping this because our friend may have gotten distracted by defending his sexualization of his own daughter and missed it
Griswold. Griswold established a "right to privacy" under the 14th amendment. That decision has been used to justify any number of things such as Roe, Obergfell, Casey, Loving, etc. It basically said that there are things that aren't any of the government's business. Same-sex marriage, use of contraception, abortions, interracial marriages, etc., all of this decided under Griswold and the 14th amendment. This is why people are worried that other civil rights are next and, in fact, Thomas went so far as to go ahead and mention those other cases as being vulnerable in his writing today (though, surely he wouldn't touch interracial marriage as he's married to a white woman).
Stare decisis. They objectively overruled previous rulings on the flimsiest of grounds.
This week they have overturned Roe vs Wade, made it easier to conceal carry guns in states that don't even want concealed carry, approved the funding of religious schools via public tax dollars, and eliminated the requirement for police to read Miranda Rights to those they arrest.
But not an activist court, eh?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:59 pm to GRTiger
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This ruling could be a game changer for way more than abortion or irrelevant social issues.
Well, we’ll see. It’ll certainly be interesting.
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Otherwise we better start rolling back gun control in blue states (and probably red states too.)
For what it’s worth, it’s my position Blue States violate the Ninth Amendment as well. Any heavy-handed regulation on business, such as $15 minimum wage is almost assuredly a violation of a contractual right the Founders would have regarded as an unenumerated right under the Ninth.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:03 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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But not an activist court, eh?
They made nothing illegal
The activists will be at the state level
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:04 pm to mmmmmbeeer
The game has changed and you can’t stand it. Gone are the days of the American right turning the other cheek. Finally, they understand we are at war for the fundamental liberty of this nation.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:04 pm to SoonerK
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Do you think a Constitutional Amendment is the only correct way to make national policy.
It’s the only correct way to endow the Federal government with a power it does not currently have.
The powers of Congress are specifically outlined in Article I, Section 8.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:04 pm to FredBear
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This is a perfect example of a word salad that isn't saying a damn thing. Abortion is not illegal at the federal level bud. Period
Equal protection under the 14th was demolished at the federal level.
This should have been legislated, one way or the other, long ago. Unfortunately, it wasn't. RvW has been on the books for half a century and upheld on several occasions. CJ Roberts sided with the liberals on the court saying a full repeal was going too far. He's right. This was political activism, plain and simple.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:08 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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But not an activist court, eh?
Roe is a textbook activist decision. It’s not based in any significant constitutional argument. It was a results-oriented decision whose legal argument was molded and shoehorned in in order to reach a result.
So is overturning a clear activist decision an act of political activism?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:08 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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This was political activism, plain and simple.
with what goal?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:11 pm to Klark Kent
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with what goal?
For 50 years the religious right's MAIN rallying call has been to overturn RvW. So, I kinda think that was the goal. We have how many Catholics on the court right now?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:12 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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We have how many Catholics on the court right now?
Just enough
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:13 pm to GRTiger
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Just enough
I laughed
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:13 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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For 50 years the religious right's MAIN rallying call has been to overturn RvW. So, I kinda think that was the goal. We have how many Catholics on the court right now?
Catholic’s believe abortion is murder and should be illegal.
Today’s decision does not make abortion illegal.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:14 pm to Cosmo
Wonder how tigergirl10 feels about this, as a woman
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:16 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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But not an activist court, eh?
Isnt that what the left wants in the court?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:16 pm to Antonio Moss
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Catholic’s believe abortion is murder and should be illegal.
Today’s decision does not make abortion illegal.
Quit with the semantics. You and I both know this had dick-all to do with federalism and everything to do with coming through with an ENORMOUS victory for the religious right.
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