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Posted on 2/24/22 at 6:55 am to BK Lounge
BKLounge,
Prayers might not stop the bombing or death for that matter but they are still appreciated.
Luke 21: 9-11.
Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disturbances,* do not be terrified. For these things must take place first, but the end will not occur immediately.”+
10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation,+ and kingdom against kingdom.+ 11 There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences;+
I do trust in the Bible and these are the words out of Jesus's own mouth over 2000 year ago. The Bible tells us it will not be easy on earth, especially in the last days. That is why Jesus told us to pray for his Kingdom to come.
Prayers might not stop the bombing or death for that matter but they are still appreciated.
Luke 21: 9-11.
Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disturbances,* do not be terrified. For these things must take place first, but the end will not occur immediately.”+
10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation,+ and kingdom against kingdom.+ 11 There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences;+
I do trust in the Bible and these are the words out of Jesus's own mouth over 2000 year ago. The Bible tells us it will not be easy on earth, especially in the last days. That is why Jesus told us to pray for his Kingdom to come.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:05 am to N2daWild
quote:
They think American media is garbage. I can't totally disagree.
She isn’t wrong 99% of the time.
Only upside here is that for the rest of your lives you get to hold this over her head. “remember that time in Ukraine when…”
I hope this all ends well for you and your family, you have people you don’t know pulling for you.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 7:36 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:12 am to N2daWild
quote:
t right now my frame of mind is not good.
Dude where are you in the US? maybe a poster or two could meet up with have a beer just bullshite for support. Love and support sent to you buddy. I cannot imagine being in your shoes. The unknown is what would mess me up.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:19 am to N2daWild
quote:
Keep in mind, Ukraine has been trying to join NATO for years, so why do they all of a sudden want to invade? Why not 4 years ago?
Have you seen the president dude?
quote:
If I knew Russia would actually invade, I wouldn't have left. Right now I have to figure out how to get back, against her wishes. I will make some calls to the embassy, but I'm doubting they will have any answers. I can fly to Warsaw and see if I can find someone to drive me in.
You continue to make poor decisions. Why the hell would you go back? You need to get them out. If you have to go back to do that fine, but I don’t think that’s what you are saying.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:20 am to N2daWild
So did we send in the Cajun Navy yet?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:24 am to N2daWild
quote:
I started this thread because I was hoping to get some advice the night before I was going to leave on if I should stay or not. I have been on TD long enough to know that it is full of morons. If you just want to throw insults, keep in mind that you are the one that actually looks like an idiot.
People are just being honest with you and you need to hear it because if you continue to use the same logic you did before you are going to make another dumb decision. From hearing you talk you obviously didn’t learn anything.
If this was truly a helpless situation where you didn’t have to make any future decisions then yes showing some tough love would be pointless.
You need to wake up
You are talking about going back. Why? Get them out
You are wondering if the IVF center will be open? This isn’t a fricking hurricane blowing through it’s a fricking war. There could be occupation, prisoners, rape, etc. FOR YEARS
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:27 am to N2daWild
Can you remind me where your wife is? Is it Lysychansk?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:47 am to WaWaWeeWa
As of right now, the wife doesn't plan on leaving. Kids will eventually go back to school and people back to work.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:24 am to BK Lounge
quote:
BK Lounge
You are quite the dick.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:45 am to N2daWild
quote:
As of right now, the wife doesn't plan on leaving. Kids will eventually go back to school and people back to work.
i have to ask the question....what in the frick is wrong with your wife?
either she is dumb as frick or naive as frick. serioulsy why the frick would you not want to leave?
and why the frick would you think kids are just going back to school and her back to work?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:46 am to WaWaWeeWa
Putin saying this about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO is a lie. Ukraine has been trying to join NATO for years. Putin feels Russia would be in danger "IF" Ukraine would be allowed to join NATO. Wouldn't you agree that Putin just put Russia into much more danger by invading Ukraine? This will just unite NATO against him.
So what does Putin really want? It's either political deals that the general public doesn't even know about or he just wants a Russian puppet in control of Ukraine, like he has in Belarus. If he wants to put his puppet in, it will happen fairly quickly. Then everyone will go back to work and back to school. The problem he will have then, will be an underground resistance using guerilla warfare against him, mostly in Kiev. Most Ukrainians will continue on with their lives just like they did when the government changed hands in 2014.
Ukrainians are survivors. They don't live like Americans. Most of them work very hard, just to live a meager life. It is not unusual for an elderly widow to live of $100 a month and work their garden in their 80's.
The truth is, even if I could make it back to them or if I would have stayed with them, there is probably little I could do to help them. I would probably just make it worse for them.
Russian troops are not going to come in shooting and raping civilians. If there is someone sniping them from a roof top, they might just blow up the building. They could drop a bomb in the wrong place. There are certainly dangers. My wife has personally treated kids that have stepped on landmines, playing where they shouldn't have been. She has seen civilian houses shelled by mistake and treated wounded children. She is not naive to war.
Will it be worse than it was in 2014? We don't know. I am pretty sure it will be in Kiev and possibly Kharkiv where her cousin is and whose family I stayed with. My family, I think she will be fairly safe at her parents and pretty well supplied.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not happy with her decision and the risk she has put my daughter in. To think I was going to caveman her and drag her on a plane back to the states is not logically thinking. Our marriage doesn't work that way. She makes her decisions and I make mine. I choose to leave them, and I have to live with that. If anyone thinks I made that decision because I was scared, is just completely mistaken. I'm not a scary person at all and I certainly wouldn't leave my family for my own safety.
I was relying on that Putin would see the stupidity in this decision. I firmly believe this is a big mistake on his part and will actually be the slow end of him. I was wrong and he did invade and I wish I didn't leave. The father in me, wants to go there immediately but the reality is that might be impossible.
So what does Putin really want? It's either political deals that the general public doesn't even know about or he just wants a Russian puppet in control of Ukraine, like he has in Belarus. If he wants to put his puppet in, it will happen fairly quickly. Then everyone will go back to work and back to school. The problem he will have then, will be an underground resistance using guerilla warfare against him, mostly in Kiev. Most Ukrainians will continue on with their lives just like they did when the government changed hands in 2014.
Ukrainians are survivors. They don't live like Americans. Most of them work very hard, just to live a meager life. It is not unusual for an elderly widow to live of $100 a month and work their garden in their 80's.
The truth is, even if I could make it back to them or if I would have stayed with them, there is probably little I could do to help them. I would probably just make it worse for them.
Russian troops are not going to come in shooting and raping civilians. If there is someone sniping them from a roof top, they might just blow up the building. They could drop a bomb in the wrong place. There are certainly dangers. My wife has personally treated kids that have stepped on landmines, playing where they shouldn't have been. She has seen civilian houses shelled by mistake and treated wounded children. She is not naive to war.
Will it be worse than it was in 2014? We don't know. I am pretty sure it will be in Kiev and possibly Kharkiv where her cousin is and whose family I stayed with. My family, I think she will be fairly safe at her parents and pretty well supplied.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not happy with her decision and the risk she has put my daughter in. To think I was going to caveman her and drag her on a plane back to the states is not logically thinking. Our marriage doesn't work that way. She makes her decisions and I make mine. I choose to leave them, and I have to live with that. If anyone thinks I made that decision because I was scared, is just completely mistaken. I'm not a scary person at all and I certainly wouldn't leave my family for my own safety.
I was relying on that Putin would see the stupidity in this decision. I firmly believe this is a big mistake on his part and will actually be the slow end of him. I was wrong and he did invade and I wish I didn't leave. The father in me, wants to go there immediately but the reality is that might be impossible.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:46 am to N2daWild
quote:Sure, but when?
Kids will eventually go back to school and people back to work.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:47 am to N2daWild
Put your responses in the OP so it is more visible.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:47 am to lsu777
quote:
what in the frick is wrong with your wife?
Its her home and she doesnt want bail on her parents, grandparents, aunts uncles etc
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:54 am to N2daWild
quote:
Don't get me wrong. I'm not happy with her decision and the risk she has put my daughter in. To think I was going to caveman her and drag her on a plane back to the states is not logically thinking. Our marriage doesn't work that way. She makes her decisions and I make mine. I choose to leave them, and I have to live with that. If anyone thinks I made that decision because I was scared, is just completely mistaken. I'm not a scary person at all and I certainly wouldn't leave my family for my own safety.
I was relying on that Putin would see the stupidity in this decision. I firmly believe this is a big mistake on his part and will actually be the slow end of him. I was wrong and he did invade and I wish I didn't leave. The father in me, wants to go there immediately but the reality is that might be impossible.
your wifes decision is one thing, but why didnt you take your daughter. frick what your wife wants, the kid is yours too and she is putting her in danger.
I have always heard ukraine women were stupid hard headed, i think you have one of those for sure.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:54 am to Honkus
quote:
Its her home and she doesnt want bail on her parents, grandparents, aunts uncles et
her responsibility is not to them, its to her kid. period.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:00 am to N2daWild
quote:
Putin saying this about stopping Ukraine from joining NATO is a lie. Ukraine has been trying to join NATO for years. Putin feels Russia would be in danger "IF" Ukraine would be allowed to join NATO. Wouldn't you agree that Putin just put Russia into much more danger by invading Ukraine? This will just unite NATO against him.
So what does Putin really want? It's either political deals that the general public doesn't even know about or he just wants a Russian puppet in control of Ukraine, like he has in Belarus. If he wants to put his puppet in, it will happen fairly quickly. Then everyone will go back to work and back to school. The problem he will have then, will be an underground resistance using guerilla warfare against him, mostly in Kiev. Most Ukrainians will continue on with their lives just like they did when the government changed hands in 2014.
Ukrainians are survivors. They don't live like Americans. Most of them work very hard, just to live a meager life. It is not unusual for an elderly widow to live of $100 a month and work their garden in their 80's.
The truth is, even if I could make it back to them or if I would have stayed with them, there is probably little I could do to help them. I would probably just make it worse for them.
Russian troops are not going to come in shooting and raping civilians. If there is someone sniping them from a roof top, they might just blow up the building. They could drop a bomb in the wrong place. There are certainly dangers. My wife has personally treated kids that have stepped on landmines, playing where they shouldn't have been. She has seen civilian houses shelled by mistake and treated wounded children. She is not naive to war.
Will it be worse than it was in 2014? We don't know. I am pretty sure it will be in Kiev and possibly Kharkiv where her cousin is and whose family I stayed with. My family, I think she will be fairly safe at her parents and pretty well supplied.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not happy with her decision and the risk she has put my daughter in. To think I was going to caveman her and drag her on a plane back to the states is not logically thinking. Our marriage doesn't work that way. She makes her decisions and I make mine. I choose to leave them, and I have to live with that. If anyone thinks I made that decision because I was scared, is just completely mistaken. I'm not a scary person at all and I certainly wouldn't leave my family for my own safety.
I was relying on that Putin would see the stupidity in this decision. I firmly believe this is a big mistake on his part and will actually be the slow end of him. I was wrong and he did invade and I wish I didn't leave. The father in me, wants to go there immediately but the reality is that might be impossible.
This whole posts leads like a letter to yourself trying to calm yourself down. You ain't gotta convince us of anything, baw
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:16 am to lsu777
quote:
her responsibility is not to them, its to her kid. period.
She has a 15 year son there, but her decision to stay is not about family. She never believed Putin would invade and everyone around her agreed. Yes she is also hard headed. The main reason she stayed is to do the IVF. Her parents told her not to do IVF in 2020 and they are both physicians. She didn't listen to them. So she risked the crazy hormonal treatments they put her through and covid on a crowded public bus in Kiev for 3 months for a 1% chance of pregnancy. As it turns out, we have a beautiful baby because she wouldn't listen to anyone's advice. She wants another baby and is determined to have one. The only thing that will stop her is if they close down the clinic. As crazy as it might seem, people still need to make a living. They don't get free money when they don't work, like in America. Once Putin puts his puppet in, they will go back to work. The clinic could be operational fairly quickly, depending on what happens in Kiev.
As for me taking the baby back, believe me I thought about it. The problem was that her sister, who lives in Russia, also just had a baby. The sister was coming to Ukraine for a few months so the families could be together. My wife obviously wanted the baby there when her sister visited, combined with thinking the invasion was bullshite. Lets just say, it would have been real hard to pry the baby from her. I still thought about it though. I will live with that guilt if something happens to her.
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