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re: Should I leave Ukraine?
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:12 pm to N2daWild
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:12 pm to N2daWild
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I am like WaWaWeeWa now and my first thoughts when I heard Russia actually invaded was to get back to them. I immediately started working on my visa and looking for plane tickets.
Hey brother I didn’t mean to give you a hard time. I just didn’t want people to only tell you what you wanted to hear. I truly hope the best for you.
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The IVF clinic in Kiev is still open and operational believe it or not. Unless they shut down that clinic, my wife won't leave. She will literally risk her life to have a second baby. As of now her sister in Russia will not be allowed to visit. So if the IVF shuts down, she will wait for them to reopen or she will come back to the states.
If she actually has the option to get out right now and isn’t because of IVF then I just don’t know what to say anymore.
Bombs are dropping and she is worried about IVF while she can still escape
That’s probably the single most ridiculous thing I’ve read on this site.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 6:18 pm
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:16 pm to sgallo3
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His wife made her decision, he made his. If sucks but all these armchair experts pretending to know what the best choice was have no way of knowing what the results would have been. Maybe they shoot up the whole family for having an American or he gets taken hostage
For sure. Most people here just had a problem with leaving the innocent child who can’t decide for herself in the warzone.
Let the dumbass wife stay
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:55 pm to N2daWild
Hang in there Mr. Wild. Hopefully this mess will be over soon.
If your wife has any hot friends looking to move to the U.S., let me know.
If your wife has any hot friends looking to move to the U.S., let me know.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 11:18 am to N2daWild
Have you heard anything from your wife? If so, what is It like from her point of view?
Posted on 2/26/22 at 11:41 am to Rick9Plus
Is this a mail order bride? Why did he leave and she stay?
Posted on 2/26/22 at 11:43 am to N2daWild
quote:This . I think the average Ukrainian is totally shocked by this & can't understand why Russia would invade them. It seems most Russian soldiers arent really motivated & don't understand why...Why are we invading Ukraine?
I think the biggest reason is their media and Zelensky were down playing it. They also have been dealing with war in politic stuff since 2014. They also view Russia as a brother country, not an enemy. At least in the Donbas region.
Why do people believe the propaganda their governments feeds them? I have no idea.
Ignore the negativity. I hope your family stays safe & sound.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 11:51 am to CaptSpaulding
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You let your family get caught in the middle of what might be one of the most consequential world events of our lifetime and your first stop for advice was a college football message board.
Let's be fair. During the last "most consequential world event of our lifetime" there was a poster stuck in the middle of China just a couple hundred miles from Wuhan as coronavirus was breaking out. This board helped coordinate them out of there. This website is a lot more than just "a college football message board." Asking for advice here isn't a bad idea.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:16 pm to efrad
To me, and a lot of posters, this is a unique window into the mindset and daily life of a person from Ukraine, who is living in Ukraine. I hope OP updates. No judgement from me on what he should or shouldn’t have done. I’d rather hear first (ok second) hand about what’s going on than form an opinion based on what CNN or the Biden admin tell me.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:20 pm to The Boat
She's not a mail order bride. She agreed to let her Aunt in Miami run a profile on Match.com. We emailed for about 6 months and then agreed to meet in Kiev, Dec. 2013. We spent the weekend in Kiev and then took the 12 hour train ride to Lisichansk. I flew out of Kiev after about a 10 day visit. Right after I left, Ukrainians started protesting in Kiev to throw out the Russian Puppet President. There is a good documentary on Netflix about it called fire and ice.
I flew back to Kiev in Jan. 2014. By that time the revolt in Kiev was a full go and people were being killed in the streets. After a couple days there, I flew into Donetsk.
After I flew home the revolt succeeded and the Pro-Russian government was overthrown. Ukrainian in the SE area like Crimnea, Lugansk, Donetsk were not happy about this revolt and declared their independence from Ukraine. Now the fighting moved to SE Ukraine to fight against their revolt of the new government. They blew up the airport I flew into. Soon Russian troops and tanks were there to support them.
During this time, my fiance' (at the time) experienced heavy shelling, no water, utilities, etc. In April 2015 she came to the states and we had 90 days to get married.
I spoke with her this morning. She could hear the shelling in the city next to her while we were talking. She still feels pretty safe. No shells have hit too close, she has utilities, the groceries are open, she has internet.
Her cousin in Kharkiv, who I know well, says things are okay there as well. They can hear the bombing but there has been no fighting in the city.
She has not heard from any of her relatives and friends in Kiev. She did mention that they will have a humanitarian issue on their hands soon. She said people will start to run out of food eventually, groceries are closed.
As for me, I found a good website to get transportation routes in Ukraine. It is there to help refugees, but I guess I can use it to get in. Right now my plan is to go in at the end of March. I will either stay with them or get the baby out. Perhaps the wife will decided to leave by then, but as of now she won't.
The problem I'm going to have is Russia will take control of Ukraine probably fairly quickly. Their troops will then be dealing with the Ukrainian insurgency. They won't be able to tell the difference between a Ukrainian that supports them or one that wants to kill them. They will probably be quite paranoid and they tend to shoot first and ask questions after. Will I have any chance of getting to them in that kind of environment? Most likely I will end up arrested before I get to them. Will I ever be able to get to them with a Pro-Russian government in place? My original plan before the war was to go back in June.
It would probably be a better plan to let them evacuate with the other Ukrainians and meet them at the border. I imagine the conditions for the evacuation are horrible. She might be better off staying put until things normalize a little bit.
All I can do now is be patient. Easier said then done.
I flew back to Kiev in Jan. 2014. By that time the revolt in Kiev was a full go and people were being killed in the streets. After a couple days there, I flew into Donetsk.
After I flew home the revolt succeeded and the Pro-Russian government was overthrown. Ukrainian in the SE area like Crimnea, Lugansk, Donetsk were not happy about this revolt and declared their independence from Ukraine. Now the fighting moved to SE Ukraine to fight against their revolt of the new government. They blew up the airport I flew into. Soon Russian troops and tanks were there to support them.
During this time, my fiance' (at the time) experienced heavy shelling, no water, utilities, etc. In April 2015 she came to the states and we had 90 days to get married.
I spoke with her this morning. She could hear the shelling in the city next to her while we were talking. She still feels pretty safe. No shells have hit too close, she has utilities, the groceries are open, she has internet.
Her cousin in Kharkiv, who I know well, says things are okay there as well. They can hear the bombing but there has been no fighting in the city.
She has not heard from any of her relatives and friends in Kiev. She did mention that they will have a humanitarian issue on their hands soon. She said people will start to run out of food eventually, groceries are closed.
As for me, I found a good website to get transportation routes in Ukraine. It is there to help refugees, but I guess I can use it to get in. Right now my plan is to go in at the end of March. I will either stay with them or get the baby out. Perhaps the wife will decided to leave by then, but as of now she won't.
The problem I'm going to have is Russia will take control of Ukraine probably fairly quickly. Their troops will then be dealing with the Ukrainian insurgency. They won't be able to tell the difference between a Ukrainian that supports them or one that wants to kill them. They will probably be quite paranoid and they tend to shoot first and ask questions after. Will I have any chance of getting to them in that kind of environment? Most likely I will end up arrested before I get to them. Will I ever be able to get to them with a Pro-Russian government in place? My original plan before the war was to go back in June.
It would probably be a better plan to let them evacuate with the other Ukrainians and meet them at the border. I imagine the conditions for the evacuation are horrible. She might be better off staying put until things normalize a little bit.
All I can do now is be patient. Easier said then done.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:25 pm to N2daWild
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She could hear the shelling in the city next to her while we were talking. She still feels pretty safe.
So about like living in New Orleans
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:25 pm to N2daWild
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By that time the revolt in Kiev was a full go and people were being killed in the streets. After a couple days there, I flew into Donetsk. After I flew home the revolt succeeded and the Pro-Russian government was overthrown…………………. Now the fighting moved to SE Ukraine to fight against their revolt of the new government. They blew up the airport I flew into.
Damn my life is so boring.. Nothing like that ever happens in Mamou !
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:26 pm to N2daWild
I don’t think you should go back. Just focus on how to get them out.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:27 pm to Rick9Plus
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I’d rather hear first (ok second) hand about what’s going on than form an opinion based on what CNN or the Biden admin tell me.
Yeah some random Tigerdroppings poster is way more credible than professional journalists and the leader of the free world……. Jesus Christ you people are dense .
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:29 pm to N2daWild
Thanks for sharing information about what is going on. I’m praying for the safety of your family and for your peace. Even though I wish your wife had decided to leave with you and get the baby to safety, it is awe-inspiring to see the bravery of the Ukrainians. Good luck to you in making plans for their future.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:37 pm to BK Lounge
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Yeah some random Tigerdroppings poster is way more credible than professional journalists and the leader of the free worl
Yet here you are, reading his account, too. The leaders of the “free” world make the decisions, but it’s the everyday Joe (or Boris) Blow who have to live with it. Damn right i want to hear from them.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:44 pm to Rick9Plus
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Yet here you are, reading his account, too
Lmao.. yeah i am reading it too.. but i never claimed I’d ‘rather hear from him ‘ than people who actually know what the frick’s going on.. this guy didnt know whether to stay or go when he was still in Ukraine, and relied mostly on the advice of shills like urself and other assorted retards here.. god forbid he pay attention to literally almost any media source and try to formulate an informed strategy for his family... But thanks for proving my point about reading comprehension and being dense .
Posted on 2/26/22 at 12:56 pm to BK Lounge
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i never claimed I’d ‘rather hear from him ‘ than people who actually know what the frick’s going on..
I’m reading the mainstream media too. Regardless of OP’s judgment and decision history, i hope he keeps updating. My fellow shills and retards mostly told him to leave with his family, but it’s too late for that. I hope he keeps sharing the view from the ground as told to him by his wife, and i hope he gets them out soon. I look forward to the rest of the story.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:01 pm to BK Lounge
I just spoke to my wife. It is 9:00pm there. She told me all her relatives in Kiev are okay and just staying in their apartments. She did mention a woman had a baby in the subway shelter.
I actually had plans to buy a house in Lisichansk when I was supposed to return in June. You can buy a decent house or nice apartment for about $10,000. I guess that won't happen if Russia takes control.
I actually had plans to buy a house in Lisichansk when I was supposed to return in June. You can buy a decent house or nice apartment for about $10,000. I guess that won't happen if Russia takes control.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:07 pm to BK Lounge
I trust the media too
Posted on 2/26/22 at 1:14 pm to Rick9Plus
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My fellow shills and retards mostly told him to leave with his family,
Wrong.
You are engaging in revisionist history.. Most here said that any talk of Putin/Russia invading Ukraine was “media hype”…. FACTS
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