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re: Should military experience be required for U. S. Presidents?

Posted on 8/20/21 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 2:49 pm to
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Whether you like him or not, Lincoln was the greatest wartime president and his military service consisted of a very brief, undistinguished stint in the state militia.





Lincoln is almost singularly responsible for the deaths of 800,000+ Americans, mostly because letting new states decide for themselves whether they would be slave states or free states could not be allowed. And then once the war started, he pretty much had his arse handed to him by a bunch of farmers for 4 years. It took that long for the MASSIVE gap in manufacturing, manpower, and technology to give him an edge.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:16 pm to
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The founders were very clear that civilians should be in charge. They saw military juntas as one of the biggest threats to the existence of the republic.



Yep. The memory of the English Civil War was still relatively fresh in 1776 (only ~120 years old beforehand). Nobody wanted another Oliver Cromwell.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
53920 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:41 pm to
Hell no!

How about Hollywood movie producing?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17460 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:46 pm to
I’d be happy if we just started with a max age. I’m sick of 70 year olds running this shite into the ground.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
29436 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 3:59 pm to
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The founders were very clear that civilians should be in charge. They saw military juntas as one of the biggest threats to the existence of the republic.


George Washington was a general. The Commander in Chief having military experience and being involved in strategic planning doesn't make it a junta. Was there a military takeover by force because that's what a junta is.
Posted by tigersfan_1990
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2021
29 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:01 pm to
I'm surprised that most people on here are saying no. Surprisingly reasonable for this type of thread.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12291 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:02 pm to
Absolutely not.

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104748 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:02 pm to
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George Washington was a general. The Commander in Chief having military experience and being involved in strategic planning doesn't make it a junta. Was there a military takeover by force because that's what a junta is.


He explicitly resigned his commission before becoming president so as not to blur any lines.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12728 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:12 pm to
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However, for your point Bill Clinton was the first modern President to not have military experience ... I assume you would have to go back to FDR for the next one.

I would assume we will have more presidents without military experience moving forward partially because we haven’t had a war that required selective service in 50 years. Compared to four in the 60 years before that.
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