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Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:24 pm to
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What reason do you have to think there’s any hope for that area?


Amazon isn't interested in it because they want to host people there like it's a brick and mortar store.

Amazon is interested in the location because it's a great strategic location for a distribution center with access to highways in all directions, it's in the middle of a city that's connected to all regions of the state, nearly no left turns, easy access to the airport, Miss River, and the whole works.

You're thinking so small here.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:25 pm to
A lot of new blood has started to move into the nearby neighborhoods, myself included. It can change.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:26 pm to
Florida at Airline? It's not that bad of an area. There are far worse areas in BR.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40473 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:26 pm to
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But why? Has anyone been through there? What reason do you have to think there’s any hope for that area?


They want to build a huge warehouse.

It's basically a mini office park type space that sits at an intersection of two federal highways, very close to two federal interstates, not far from a major port on a major river, with a ring road around it.

It's the type of facility that you can rarely build in a city these days, they usually relegated to the sticks.

It's a big ugly box.

I'm not suggesting they build million dollar houses or attempt to sell Lambos in this area.

The area may or may not have any hope, but it is perfect for very few things. This is one of them.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:27 pm to
The neighborhoods are old, but I love living here. It’s quiet. And I have a HUGE yard.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:27 pm to
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Amazon isn't interested in it because they want to host people there like it's a brick and mortar store.


I understand that, but people are assuming that this will somehow bring economic development into that area. It won’t. No business is going to subject itself to allowing the patrons of the area to come in and borrow crap and terrorize its customers.

It’s very good for amazon, and I hope they accomplish it. But the idea that it will somehow turn that area around is a joke.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:29 pm to
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It's a big ugly box. I'm not suggesting they build million dollar houses or attempt to sell Lambos in this area.


I have a mental image of this, and it’s hilarious
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17404 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:29 pm to
I will say this, the heights district of Houston was ghetto shithole not that long ago. So there’s hope.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:31 pm to
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Sooner or later, that Dillards brick and mortar store is going to shut down eventually as online retail gets stronger and stronger. It's a building in a dead mall in the middle of the ghetto. They're going the way of Sears. It's inevitable at this point.

What good is the middle finger to Amazon if you get no money out of it and your company keeps losing money while Amazon keeps getting stronger?

Just cut your losses and move on.


I'm not sure you are up to date on the economics of that particular store / brand.

Dillard's, by and large, doesn't have a great online presence at all. I would go so far as to say it's terrible. That's an interesting corporate position, but it is what it is.

Those stores are internal liquidation centers. Instead of them dumping their post-season unsold inventory into places like Hudson's or The Dump, they sell if themselves. There are a number of these centers in the company, across the company's footprint. Hell, there are three in the BR-NOLA-Slidell area.

Most of their sale prices are less than online prices. Other than cheapskates like me, most of their customer base is poor people who 1) Don't do online shopping and 2) don't trust that deliveries to their homes won't get stolen.

For that type of store, it's almost a perfect location.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:33 pm to
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but people are assuming that this will somehow bring economic development into that area. It won’t. No business is going to subject itself to allowing the patrons of the area to come in and borrow crap and terrorize its customers.


You have to start somewhere. Quit being pessimistic about it.

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But the idea that it will somehow turn that area around is a joke.


Literally no one here has said that.

You're the only in this thread suggesting it and making fun of the idea.

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Pearland


Oh....

It's always the Louisiana transplants in Texas shitting on things like this.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
53326 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:34 pm to
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The neighborhoods are old, but I love living here. It’s quiet. And I have a HUGE yard.

We live in Woodland Ridge which is an old neighborhood with big yards. Not necessarily right around there though. Broadmoor has undergone some gentrification in the past decade for sure.
Posted by BertusTiger
The Bayou City
Member since Oct 2014
396 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:35 pm to
The holdout Dilliards may be a money laundering setup like mattress firm...I’d like to see their financials.

Edit: the holdout Dilliards*
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 6:47 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40473 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:35 pm to
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I understand that, but people are assuming that this will somehow bring economic development into that area. It won’t. No business is going to subject itself to allowing the patrons of the area to come in and borrow crap and terrorize its customers.


The businesses that might be attracted to co-locate near an Amazon distribution facility aren't the ones that have "patrons" come in.

They are going to be other warehousing and packaging concerns, etc.

I would assume this facility is going to be HIGHLY automated, probably not even that many employees, and the ones they do hire, aren't making enough money or getting a 2 hour lunch break, to justify some sort of retail boom around it.

I'm not even sure you will see much direct economic impact from it.

But... maybe it leads to same day or more next day Prime delivery.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53326 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:36 pm to
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I would assume this facility is going to be HIGHLY automated, probably not even that many employees, and the ones they do hire, aren't making enough money or getting a 2 hour lunch break, to justify some sort of retail boom around it.

It was going to have 1000 employees supposedly
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:36 pm to
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Dillard's, by and large, doesn't have a great online presence at all. I would go so far as to say it's terrible. That's an interesting corporate position, but it is what it is.

Those stores are internal liquidation centers. Instead of them dumping their post-season unsold inventory into places like Hudson's or The Dump, they sell if themselves. There are a number of these centers in the company, across the company's footprint. Hell, there are three in the BR-NOLA-Slidell area.

Most of their sale prices are less than online prices. Other than cheapskates like me, most of their customer base is poor people who 1) Don't do online shopping and 2) don't trust that deliveries to their homes won't get stolen.

For that type of store, it's almost a perfect location.


Interesting.

But you have to ask yourself is just how sustainable is this business model really? Does it have staying power in the age of online retail getting stronger and stronger?
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:37 pm to
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Broadmoor has undergone some gentrification in the past decade for sure.


I contributed to that.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53326 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:40 pm to
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Most of their sale prices are less than online prices. Other than cheapskates like me, most of their customer base is poor people who 1) Don't do online shopping and 2) don't trust that deliveries to their homes won't get stolen.

That location doesn't do a lot of business unless that's changed recently. I used to work down the street from there when that mall still had a Chick-fil-A and Subway so I'd occasionally go eat lunch there.

There weren't usually 10 people in that Dillard's and this was 8-9 years ago when some of the mall was still open.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17404 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:40 pm to
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You have to start somewhere. Quit being pessimistic about it.


Not being pessimistic, just being realistic.
You seem to be emotionally attached to this.

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Literally no one here has said that.

You're the only in this thread suggesting it and making fun of the idea.


Yes, they have.

quote:

It's always the Louisiana transplants in Texas shitting on things like this.


Well you’ve become emotional over this, so I’ll leave you alone.
Posted by C9
Member since Aug 2019
144 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:46 pm to
According to sources familiar with the situation, state and local economic development officials have been working with Amazon, through its proxy, for more than a year on the deal, which would be a huge economic development win for the Capital Region and create 1,000 new jobs in north Baton Rouge.
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
5030 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:50 pm to
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Then NBR can complain about gentrification.

I almost spit up my drink. More racist dress codes.
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