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re: Spanking a kid--where do you stand?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:07 am to lsufan9193969700
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:07 am to lsufan9193969700
Depends on the situation. I got that belt growing up...for instance, if I was disrespectful, such as talking back to my mother... hell yeah I would get my butt beat. I would get smacked by her then proceed to get the belt from my dad when he got home. I see disrespectful little kids all the time out in public that deserve a beating... Parents are too soft these days. MAGA
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:11 am to lsufan9193969700
Only trashy, uneducated, or poorly informed individuals spank their kids
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:14 am to DmitriKaramazov
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Here is an American Psychological Association article describing some of the studies which conclude that spanking is both ineffective and harmful. You are welcome.
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Do you read the links you post?
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The negative effects of physical punishment may not become apparent for some time, Gershoff says. “A child doesn’t get spanked and then run out and rob a store,” she says. “There are indirect changes in how the child thinks about things and feels about things.”
As in many areas of science, some researchers disagree about the validity of the studies on physical punishment. Robert Larzelere, PhD, an Oklahoma State University professor who studies parental discipline, was a member of the APA task force who issued his own minority report because he disagreed with the scientific basis of the task force recommendations. While he agrees that parents should reduce their use of physical punishment, he says most of the cited studies are correlational and don’t show a causal link between physical punishment and long-term negative effects for children.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:18 am to LoveThatMoney
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Science is pretty clear that spankings do more harm than good.
It's actually not.
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A kid crying in the grocery store doesn't need a spanking.
No one is suggesting that and is a strawman.
Spanking does not = or mean beating the shite out of your kid for any reason.
Most liberals seem to have some notion that spanking is some violent matter. Its not. In fact, I say there is very little pain in most cases and the major benefit is the implicit emotional response that, as most will attest to here, lasts for a a long time in the child's mind.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:24 am to JayDeerTay84
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Spanking does not = or mean beating the shite out of your kid for any reason.
It may not mean that for you, but for some it does.
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Most liberals seem to have some notion that spanking" is some violent matter.
Perhaps they got that notion from their own upbringing. My parents spanked, and in the case of my mom it was absolutely a violent matter. She was a redhead with a redhead's temper and with 4 shithead kids in the house, she lost that temper quite often. I'm not saying my mother was a bad mother. This was the late 70's and early 80's when 90%+ of parents spanked. I can say I got nothing out of being spanked by my parents. It hurt like hell, but I never really feared a spanking, and by the time I was an adult I realized we were mostly their punching bags to get their frustration out.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:30 am to The Spleen
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It may not mean that for you, but for some it does.
And you know what, there are parents who dont spank that cause just as much emotional/mental damage...
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Perhaps they got that notion from their own upbringing. My parents spanked, and in the case of my mom it was absolutely a violent matter. She was a redhead with a redhead's temper and with 4 shithead kids in the house, she lost that temper quite often. I'm not saying my mother was a bad mother. This was the late 70's and early 80's when 90%+ of parents spanked. I can say I got nothing out of being spanked by my parents. It hurt like hell, but I never really feared a spanking, and by the time I was an adult I realized we were mostly their punching bags to get their frustration out.
So on a daily average, how fricked up are you and how many people do you physically beat up because of your spankings?
The premise of this thread, I think, is can spanking be a tool that can be effective? Yes.
Just as "words" can do both harm and good...
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:49 am to ForeverLSU02
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this is part of what's wrong with this country today
according to polls and stats the majority of the population spanks
Posted on 4/30/19 at 9:56 am to monsterballads
I have no strong feelings on how others raise their kids. I just don't think I'd be able to support it with my hypothetical kids.
If you want to teach a grown arse man that can defend himself a lesson by hitting him, then you have an assault charge. If you want to teach a kid that's 1/8 your size a lesson by hitting them, it's parenting. It's tough for me to get past that.
If you want to teach a grown arse man that can defend himself a lesson by hitting him, then you have an assault charge. If you want to teach a kid that's 1/8 your size a lesson by hitting them, it's parenting. It's tough for me to get past that.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:00 am to lsufan9193969700
“Where do I stand?” About 2 foot off to their left and about 6 inches behind to ensure proper swing technique and maximum impact velocity.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 10:59 am to HogX
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If you want to teach a grown arse man that can defend himself a lesson by hitting him, then you have an assault charge. If you want to teach a kid that's 1/8 your size a lesson by hitting them, it's parenting. It's tough for me to get past that.
Nailed it.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:07 am to JayDeerTay84
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And you know what, there are parents who dont spank that cause just as much emotional/mental damage...
Absolutely. Bad parenting comes in many forms.
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So on a daily average, how fricked up are you and how many people do you physically beat up because of your spankings?
I'm pretty well adjusted today. I did have my battles with depression, anxiety, drug use, mild rebellion, etc., in high school and college. Nothing too extreme, and I can't really blame that on the spankings I got, though I can't rule it out either.
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The premise of this thread, I think, is can spanking be a tool that can be effective? Yes.
I think there are better, more effective ways to get the point across without resorting to violence. No matter how you approach a spanking, physically hitting another human as a form of punishment is a violent act, and IMO is a lazy parenting approach.
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Just as "words" can do both harm and good...
Sure. I actually think verbal/emotional abuse is more damaging than physical abuse.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:29 am to JayDeerTay84
quote:exactly, but that kid knows if you tell him to go pick the weeds out of the garden by hand or run 10 laps around the house and he just says nah not gonna do it, that you are going to get into that arse
have more of a staged approach. Timeout, take things away, grounding, and my favorite, physical conditioning (running laps, push-ups, squats, yard work, etc)!!!
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:05 pm to The Spleen
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Sure. I actually think verbal/emotional abuse is more damaging than physical abuse.
Yes
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:42 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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exactly, but that kid knows if you tell him to go pick the weeds out of the garden by hand or run 10 laps around the house and he just says nah not gonna do it, that you are going to get into that arse
So you think the only way to show authority is through physical intimidation?
In the scenario you laid out above there are many courses of action you can take that will enforce your control without hitting. Depending on the age of the kid and their interests you can get creative. Take the Xbox, take the TV, take the Phone, punish them from going to movies with friends, the possibilities are endless. For a younger kid you just take their favorite toys or throw away their favorite snack.
If you have tried a ton of non violent options and none of them work then maybe the kid needs to get spanked but to go from "do this chore or run a lap" straight to hitting them is lazy and is more for your satisfaction than teaching the kid.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:43 pm to lsufan9193969700
Where do you stand?
Being right handed, I usually stand slightly behind and to the child's left.
Being right handed, I usually stand slightly behind and to the child's left.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:44 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I'd also like to add that if you have to resort to any punishment almost daily then that punishment doesnt work and you need a new strategy.
That goes for everything from spanking to time outs.
That goes for everything from spanking to time outs.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:48 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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So you think the only way to show authority is through physical intimidation?
In the scenario you laid out above there are many courses of action you can take that will enforce your control without hitting. Depending on the age of the kid and their interests you can get creative. Take the Xbox, take the TV, take the Phone, punish them from going to movies with friends, the possibilities are endless. For a younger kid you just take their favorite toys or throw away their favorite snack.
If you have tried a ton of non violent options and none of them work then maybe the kid needs to get spanked but to go from "do this chore or run a lap" straight to hitting them is lazy and is more for your satisfaction than teaching the kid.
No one made this up but you and the others that are anti-spanking.
I haven't seen a single person that supports spanking that ALSO said its their "go-to" method.
In fact, I would say, from what I have read, most use it as an option if needed and I would also say its a last resort for the majority of people that are "ok" with spanking....
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:49 pm to Bleeding purple
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Where do you stand?
Being right handed, I usually stand slightly behind and to the child's left.
You do realize that this joke has already been used about 10 times, right?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:50 pm to JayDeerTay84
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haven't seen a single person that supports spanking that ALSO said its their "go-to" method.
This is true for me too.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:29 pm to lsufan9193969700
If its worthy I beat that arse. And make sure they know why and that there's more coming.
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