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re: St. George on track to collect signatures needed to be put on ballot

Posted on 4/28/15 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2593 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 3:52 pm to
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moving to BR for the lottery system magnet program.


FIFY.
Lol. What a dumb plan, to move houses based on the hope that maybe your child will be one of the lucky few to get into the BRMHS lottery. What happens if the lucky kid that gets in has an unlucky younger sibling? Guess she's going to Tara...
The magnet program is a pitiful olive branch to try and coax a few parents from fleeing to a good district or private schools. What a joke.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 3:55 pm to
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As of now, I know way too many folks that are packing up and going to Zachary, ascension, etc. just so they get respectable public schools



Those schools are declining as well FWIW.

Maybe better mayors and city council who allocate funds to worthwhile things is all that is needed. Is that an impossibility with the current Baton Rouge?

ETA:

And I ask that sincerely.
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8846 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 3:58 pm to
I know of 4 new home owners to the area in the past couple of months who have yet to sign. Younger people with children. I assume they'll vote but we'll never know unless it goes to a vote.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130725 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 3:59 pm to
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Maybe better mayors and city council who allocate funds to worthwhile things is all that is needed. Is that an impossibility with the current Baton Rouge?


The school system and local government are separate entities. Not sure what you're asking here.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:00 pm to
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Maybe better mayors and city council who allocate funds to worthwhile things is all that is needed. Is that an impossibility with the current Baton Rouge?


That's another reason why I am for the new city (which is in no way leaving Baton Rouge). The relative weight of my vote will be considerably higher in St. George than it is in the Mayor-President elections.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:01 pm to
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The school system and local government are separate entities. Not sure what you're asking here.




Ok same question but posed for the school system. What can change to improve the school system in Baton Rouge without St. George breaking off?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:01 pm to
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The magnet program is a pitiful olive branch to try and coax a few parents from fleeing to a good district or private schools. What a joke.


Yep, we wanted my little girl in public schools, so we applied for the magnet program, but she was unlucky. It also doesn't help that many of the magnet schools have selective weighting criteria.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:03 pm to
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It also doesn't help that many of the magnet schools have selective weighting criteria.


Can you expound?



(again, I am outside looking in on this and just trying to be informed)
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130725 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:04 pm to
Well we just got a new superintendent, and he seems to be well liked by some. Don't know of his plans yet.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:06 pm to
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Can you expound?


Several of the magnet schools, especially elementary, have selection processes which place preference on accepting children from the immediate vicinity of the school.

Aside from that, the magnet program also results in unnecessary busing into less-safe neighborhoods. In middle school, there were times when we would sit in class and talk about the new bullet holes that appeared over the weekend.
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2593 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 4:12 pm to
My wife and her family are huge fans of the new superintendent. Personally I would love it if he turned out all around tomorrow, but I just sincerely believe that's impossible for one person to do with our school board.

Remember, racism got us into the boat we are currently in, due to the 40+ year desegregation case.
Incremental changes, the people getting money in the current system (Status Quo Together) and political correctness will never allow it to actually overcome its problems and become a top flight system.
Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
497 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:31 pm to
By who's math are they "on track" to get the signatures they need? Here's what we know...

They need 2700 signatures to add to the ones that didn't get thrown out.

When it was announced that they were 2700 signatures short, they said they already had "more than 1500" additional signatures. Now they say they have gathered "more than 2000" halfway through the 60 day deadline. So it sounds like they have gathered about 500 more signatures since it was announced that they were short. That would mean that they are definitely not on track to get the required number.

Even if we assume that ole Lionel is being coy and downplaying the number of signatures they have, it still looks bleak. He has been overestimating the number of signatures they have and how quickly they can obtain more since all the way back in 2013, and he's been proven foolish in his estimates many times since, so I see no reason to assume that he isn't overestimating now, but let's just pretend. Considering that around 18% of the signatures they turned in last time were invalid, and there's no reason to believe a similar number of these new signatures won't be invalid, they really need to get well over 3000 signatures before it's likely that they'll actually get on the ballot. I'm sure they got a bump in signatures back when it was first announced that they were short, and they really haven't been in the news much since, so if they aren't even at 2500 yet, it seems pretty unlikely that they're gonna get there.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:39 pm to
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The proposed area has roughly the population of AP. AP has 5 public high schools I think while the St. George area has one. If that's not neglect/abuse I don't know what is.

That's because everyone in St. George can afford to send their kids to private schools
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176513 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:48 pm to
I haven't signed yet. But I will if I can ever get my white arse up and over to wherever to sign it.
Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 6:35 pm to
GREAT.....max annexations coming soon.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2262 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 6:54 pm to
That and the fact that several schools to include Tara High School are within a couple of miles the Baton Rouge/St. George boundary.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2262 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:01 pm to
Yeah in the past 20 years the area that just started calling themselves St. George hasn't seen any money invested in their area. All of the "pet" projects are strictly within city limits and has zero benefit to the nomads who currently dwell in the unincorporated area of Baton Rouge.
Posted by SuperflyLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1103 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:25 pm to
Why don't you ask all those former small business owners on O'neal Lane how those "pet" projects have helped them? Thankfully the parish seems to be a little better organized on Jones Creek. And I was under the impression that green light was a parish wide plan and tax, so why shouldn't the unincorporated side of the parish get any improvements?

Also, way to generalize all of the residents in the area. I've lived on this side for almost ten years now, and I have never called it St. George. However attitudes like yours and those of groups like better together have done more in the past year to make me feel like me and my "area" do not belong and are not welcome in Baton Rouge.
Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
497 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:33 pm to
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The proposed area has roughly the population of AP. AP has 5 public high schools I think while the St. George area has one. If that's not neglect/abuse I don't know what is.


Try not thinking like an idiot. "St. George" isn't a real place. People in St. George have access to more than one high school. Whether or not those schools are within the imaginary lines that Lionel Rainey drew on a map is irrelevant. And the proposed city of "St. George" is around 1/4 the size of AP in terms of area, so the average person living there lives closer to their nearest public high school than the average person in AP.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3259 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:01 pm to
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And the large headed one (Woody Jenkins) will make his way to the ballot to once more be soundly defeated by the masses of small heads.


Doesn't Woody still live in the North Street/Florida Boulevard area? What office could he possibly run for all the way over in St. George?
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