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re: Sub-Saharan African Civilizations
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:47 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:47 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Do we count Ethiopia as Sub-Saharan Africa?
Because the civilizational history there is long and developed.
The Horn of Africa is typically considered it's own thing, due to its connectivity to the ancient world. If you want to call it SSA, it's an extreme exception to basically every commonality of SSA.
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:00 pm to TigerHornII
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I think it makes a great companion with Victor Davis Hanson's "Carnage and Culture", which focusses on how some cultures are simply better at technology and thus war than others.
I need to read this book
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:28 pm to Cajun Voltaire
Oh jeesbus, you done did it now.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 5:50 pm to UFFan
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UFFan
Are you just trying to get folks banned for the holidays?
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:12 pm to Slippy
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They say that humans sprang up and evolved in sub-Saharan Africa and then dispersed to the ends of the earth.
Earliest known instance of white flight.
There are newer discoveries that may argue against that.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:13 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:yeah not really
There are newer discoveries that may argue against that.
Unless you think the earth is flat
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:16 pm to SuperSaint
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yeah not really
Unless you think the earth is flat
Human genomes suggest it’s certainly a possibility. At the very least it’s unlikely humans came from a single source in one place in Africa.
Fossils in Turkey also suggest that human evolution began in Europe then migrated to Africa where evolution continued.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:51 pm to Corinthians420
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Mansa Abu Bakr II (Malian, Songhai predecessor) made a fleet of 2,000 ships to sail across the Atlantic in 1311
Show your work.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:20 pm to Cajun Voltaire
US Jews FTW
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:45 pm to UFFan
Medieval Ghana, Mali, and Songhai were quite powerful, but not big builders. Antiquity sub-Sahara was similar to Europe, North America, and other non-prime real estate. Most civilizations developed along the mid-latitudes of the Northern hemisphere.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:17 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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What’s awful about it?
Jared Diamond has no methodology for determining whether an animal is domesticable or not. The extent of his analysis is If an animal was domesticated, then it was domesticable. If an animal was not domesticated, then it wasn’t domesticable.
When it’s put like this it sounds so stupid on the face of it, but that’s his argument. He asserts that we’ve domesticated “virtually all” domesticable animals. This assertion is refuted by the domestication of zebras and foxes which has occurred in this and the previous centuries alone.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Without rivers, there wont' be trade networks within Africa. Without trade networks, why would the coasts develop anywhere? Any goods from outside Africa could not be transported within the continent very well, and there would be nothing coming from the continent to exchange for these imports.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:30 pm to OysterPoBoy
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What made the desert stop where it does? Is there a river or something?
It was based on the actions of Phaethon . . . Duh
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Phaethon, the son of Helios, the sun god, drove the sun chariot too close to Earth, scorching the land and creating the Sahara Desert. Phaethon's actions also caused other destruction . . .
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:43 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:not really
Human genomes suggest it’s certainly a possibility.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:54 pm to FeauxPaw
What's that supposed to be
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:57 pm to FeauxPaw
There's a difference on being able to domesticate an animal, as in small specialized cases, and being able to do it to herds or packs of them at a reliable pace.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
How do you explain Somalia then?
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:40 pm to LSUGrrrl
The Chinese don't believe in out of Africa
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:07 am to SlowFlowPro
Lord Jim says "hold my tiller".
Only upvote if you get the reference.
Only upvote if you get the reference.
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