- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Teen son; HPV vaccine
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:53 am to lsu merk
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:53 am to lsu merk
Yes.
Reduces HPV in women. Reduces warts in everyone.
Currently, there is a borderline epidemic of head and neck cancer with HPV to blame. Stats aren't out, but I'd expect it to also reduce these cancers as well.
Upside for the general population with essentially no downside to self.
Reduces HPV in women. Reduces warts in everyone.
Currently, there is a borderline epidemic of head and neck cancer with HPV to blame. Stats aren't out, but I'd expect it to also reduce these cancers as well.
Upside for the general population with essentially no downside to self.
2
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:54 am to lsu merk
Vaccinating him for stds will only encourage him to hang with the wrong crowd
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:56 am to SamuelClemens
quote:
The only thing questionable is it contains aluminum but in smaller amounts that what's in the air. Why not get it?
I wouldn't be too concerned about this, he could always switch from cancer deodorant to an organic deodorant such as the crystal to balance it out
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:56 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:
HPV can cause anal, penial, and throat cancer in men
We aren't going to judge you bud. You be you.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:57 am to Hopeful Doc
quote:
Currently, there is a borderline epidemic of head and neck cancer with HPV to blame.
interesting...I have sometimes wondered how frequently this is the case.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:58 am to el Gaucho
quote:
Vaccinating him for stds will only encourage him to hang with the wrong crowd
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:15 pm to Paluka
There have been a lot of problems with this particular vaccine and even some of the developers are warning parents about it. Also, HPV is not transmitted via casual contact.
Do your homework on this one. It's not like MMR where there's no risk (unless you have specific contraindications) and a clear benefit.
Do your homework on this one. It's not like MMR where there's no risk (unless you have specific contraindications) and a clear benefit.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:17 pm to Passing Wind
quote:
We aren't going to judge you bud. You be you.
If I can get penial cancer, I have bigger problems than I thought.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:21 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:
If I can get penial cancer, I have bigger problems than I thought.
Get with the times. Women can have penile cancer.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:21 pm to lsu merk
quote:
Pediatrician doesn't think it is necessary
doc must think your kid is so ugly it's not worth the time
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:24 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
There have been a lot of problems with this particular vaccine and even some of the developers are warning parents about it.
This is news to me. Have a source by chance?
quote:
It's not like MMR where there's no risk (unless you have specific contraindications) and a clear benefit.
What risk are you speaking of?
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:28 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
Also, HPV is not transmitted via casual contact.
well, then how is it transmitted?
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:28 pm to lsu merk
I have battled warts before. GET IT.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:29 pm to Hopeful Doc
quote:
This is news to me. Have a source by chance?
Old article but from a mainstream source:
LINK
Also has links to another member of the team.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:39 pm to lsu merk
Negligent if you dont, in my opinion.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:40 pm to H. E. Pennypacker
quote:
doc must think your kid is so ugly it's not worth the time
Lol.
Funny, but I assume the doc's reasoning is that the penile cancer rate in the US is less than 1 per 100,000 males.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:57 pm to Bestbank Tiger
While interesting, the "it may not be effective for >5 years and we don't have evidence to support the claim" is a little silly to me.
example of why. HPV rate is down in the 14-19 crowd by 56%.
The article is all speculation. While no one knows the 20 year mark info, we know that over 7-10 years, there are dramatic reductions in the rate of the virus thought the cause the vast majority of the disease. I would be less cautious than the article thinks I should be.
And I guess I'll disclose that I preach abstinence, faithfulness, and condom use (in that order) to adolescents. Nothing about the vaccine breeds promiscuity. I actually have even heard of (never seen or treated myself) a few reports of virginal kids who were raped/abused and wound up HPV positive through zero fault of their own.
I'll stick to my recommending it across the board for the indicated age group (and even beyond...at 29 myself I consider paying out of pocket for the vaccine even though it's not studied in older folks), though I'll acknowledge that the article has nothing that can be disproven without time- though with the attitude through the first half of the article (didn't make it to the end but will after this reply), we should've waited 10, 20, and 60 years in small trials before inoculating the masses- the world would be quite a different place if we did this, though.
example of why. HPV rate is down in the 14-19 crowd by 56%.
The article is all speculation. While no one knows the 20 year mark info, we know that over 7-10 years, there are dramatic reductions in the rate of the virus thought the cause the vast majority of the disease. I would be less cautious than the article thinks I should be.
And I guess I'll disclose that I preach abstinence, faithfulness, and condom use (in that order) to adolescents. Nothing about the vaccine breeds promiscuity. I actually have even heard of (never seen or treated myself) a few reports of virginal kids who were raped/abused and wound up HPV positive through zero fault of their own.
I'll stick to my recommending it across the board for the indicated age group (and even beyond...at 29 myself I consider paying out of pocket for the vaccine even though it's not studied in older folks), though I'll acknowledge that the article has nothing that can be disproven without time- though with the attitude through the first half of the article (didn't make it to the end but will after this reply), we should've waited 10, 20, and 60 years in small trials before inoculating the masses- the world would be quite a different place if we did this, though.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 12:57 pm to lsu merk
absolutely yes
Posted on 8/6/17 at 1:02 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
Funny, but I assume the doc's reasoning is that the penile cancer rate in the US is less than 1 per 100,000 males.
Obvious problem with that is that the cervical cancer rate isn't as high as it is because of lesbians and little girls sharing underwear and sex toys.
I don't mean to question any other physicians's (or anyone's, for that matter) thought process as explained by someone else over the web, but to not consider the males having sex with the at-risk age group as a major harborer of disease that should be treated/vaccinated despite clinical evidence of overtly life-altering disease seems silly to me. It would seem a comparable argument is, "mosquitoes don't get sick with malaria. We shouldn't keep their numbers down."
Posted on 8/6/17 at 1:03 pm to WAR TIGER
Of course we want to get rid of head and neck cancer. However, at this point it doesn't seem we have evidence that the vaccine does in fact work to do that.
Debbie Saslow is director of breast and gynecological cancers at the American Cancer Society. She agreed that HPV also poses a threat to males, but she's not yet convinced that Gardasil would help protect them.
"We have been considering vaccination for boys since day one, but the problem is that there is just no data yet -- everything is holding until we get data that the vaccine actually works in boys," she said.
Gardasil's maker, Merck & Co., is largely responsible for pulling that data together. However, according to Bookman, "they took a more conservative stance when they approached the FDA for licensure, registration and vaccine recommendations -- their safety data base was stronger for girls than boys."
But what about the vaccine's cost-effectiveness in preventing anal and throat cancers, plus genital warts, among boys? Saslow said that since Gardasil has not yet been proven to be effective in boys, or to be effective against cancers outside the cervix, those points remain up in the air. "We still have all these questions that we need to look at," she said.
LINK
Debbie Saslow is director of breast and gynecological cancers at the American Cancer Society. She agreed that HPV also poses a threat to males, but she's not yet convinced that Gardasil would help protect them.
"We have been considering vaccination for boys since day one, but the problem is that there is just no data yet -- everything is holding until we get data that the vaccine actually works in boys," she said.
Gardasil's maker, Merck & Co., is largely responsible for pulling that data together. However, according to Bookman, "they took a more conservative stance when they approached the FDA for licensure, registration and vaccine recommendations -- their safety data base was stronger for girls than boys."
But what about the vaccine's cost-effectiveness in preventing anal and throat cancers, plus genital warts, among boys? Saslow said that since Gardasil has not yet been proven to be effective in boys, or to be effective against cancers outside the cervix, those points remain up in the air. "We still have all these questions that we need to look at," she said.
LINK
This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 1:09 pm
Page 2 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News