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Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:00 pm to fightin tigers
quote:HP
What specs do you want to beat?
Torque
Towing capacity
Payload Capacity
New trucks under $20k, who beats Cybertruck?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:00 pm to shel311
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New trucks under $20k, who beats Cybertruck?
Cybertruck won't be under 40k
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:01 pm to shel311
no transmissions. No fluids to change. No drive belts or accessories.
I'm really not sure if these Teslas even have brake pads or just use the motors to stop.
There's so much being overlooked when comparing EV's to traditional vehicles.
I'm really not sure if these Teslas even have brake pads or just use the motors to stop.
There's so much being overlooked when comparing EV's to traditional vehicles.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:02 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Oh, so how much will it be?
Cybertruck won't be under 40k
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:05 pm to shel311
quote:
Oh, so how much will it be?
I'd say it might make mid 40's before the EV tax credit (which is what thet are advertising now).
Likely will be right under 50 for the first few years.
A base 1500 will get you extremely comprable numbers for $25k.
Most trucks at 30k are going to have it beat where it matters.
Unless you want to agree it is a luxury truck, which is what it is.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:05 pm to Bedhog
quote:Oh, of course.
no transmissions. No fluids to change. No drive belts or accessories.
I'm really not sure if these Teslas even have brake pads or just use the motors to stop.
There's so much being overlooked when comparing EV's to traditional vehicles.
We're all talking about price to purchase, which really shouldn't be relevant, and we should be looking at total cost of ownership which obviously is in Tesla's favor in a huge way.
Essentially a $40k Tesla Model 3, for example, will end up costing roughly the same as a $25k-30k similar car over the course of 5 years with total cost of ownership.
We're not doing that, but I imagine that would sway in Cybertruck's favor if we did.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:05 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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If you think buying the cybertruck makes sense from a VALUE standpoint, you are wrong.
If you think any luxury package on a truck, or any vehicle for that matter is value that might be wrong. But what is value to you and me? People have all conditions of value.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:05 pm to fightin tigers
quote:Cybertrucks will not get any tax credits.
I'd say it might make mid 40's before the EV tax credit (which is what thet are advertising now).
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:06 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Since we got into that portion of the discussion, have you factored in total cost of ownership for this determination or just purchase price?
If you think buying the cybertruck makes sense from a VALUE standpoint, you are wrong.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:07 pm to shel311
quote:
Since we got into that portion of the discussion, have you factored in total cost of ownership for this determination or just purchase price?
Takes 5+ years to catch up.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:07 pm to shel311
quote:
Cybertrucks will not get any tax credits.
Not federal
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:07 pm to shel311
quote:why? The rest of the lineup does
Cybertrucks will not get any tax credits.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:09 pm to fightin tigers
quote:depends on what you're comparing that to. A diesel 2500? Those things take 3 gallons of oil each oil change, need frequent fuel filter changes,are very hard on brakes/tires etc. Also diesel is more expensive than gasoline.
Takes 5+ years to catch up.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:10 pm to Bedhog
quote:
why? The rest of the lineup does
Not anymore. Well, at least not after Jan 1
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:11 pm to Martini
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If you think any luxury package on a truck, or any vehicle for that matter is value that might be wrong. But what is value to you and me? People have all conditions of value.
I’m talking about objective stats and capabilities.
The cybertruck with the best capabilities is matched or beaten on nearly all those capabilities by trucks that can be had for 5 figures less.
frick you can probably outfit an F250 with the big diesel motor (the one that will annihilate the tesla in towing capabilities) and the crewcab with leather and upgraded interior and still have 10k+ left over.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:12 pm to Bedhog
i assume thats grimes in the middle
still the oddest couple around
still the oddest couple around
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:12 pm to Bedhog
quote:
depends on what you're comparing that to. A diesel 2500? Those things take 3 gallons of oil each oil change, need frequent fuel filter changes,are very hard on brakes/tires etc. Also diesel is more expensive than gasoline
All true.
By TSLA numbers it still takes 5 years or so.
What are maintenance numbers like on a Cybertruck?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:14 pm to fightin tigers
quote:keep going down. I didn't even include DEF fluid.
All true.
By TSLA numbers it still takes 5 years or so.
quote:Dial electric grease on the charging plug
What are maintenance numbers like on a Cybertruck?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:16 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
frick you can probably outfit an F250 with the big diesel motor (the one that will annihilate the tesla in towing capabilities) and the crewcab with leather and upgraded interior and still have 10k+ left over.
No doubt.
It is a strange market TSLA is positioned in. This is a huge truck, huge. It isn't going to be friendly to small city centers. It isn't an ideal choice for any long range because of range limits. It doesn't have a fanboy group like Ford or Ram.
It will likely be luxury though. Which does change the conversation. Just doesn't sell volume.
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