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Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:22 pm to jefforize
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Working from home is cool for a day or two but it gets old quick.
Yeah. There's only so much whiskey and masturbation I can bill before I get tired of it all.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:23 pm to upgrayedd
What a dork. How the frick is he supposed to drink that water when it's that far away.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:27 pm to elprez00
A lot depends on the more senior executives and age of the company. Some just can't get past not seeing butts in seats.
It will be interesting to see what the modern corporate office setting is in 20 years. Luckily I'll be retired.
It will be interesting to see what the modern corporate office setting is in 20 years. Luckily I'll be retired.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:29 pm to elprez00
I work for a Fortune 500 company with offices in just about every major city around the world. Everyone I've been in is damn near empty. We are cutting our office space in many area's, but expanding in other's as we cut the high earning tenured folks and hire new college grads and put them in handful of hubs.
A different world indeed.
A different world indeed.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:31 pm to runforrestrun
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as we cut the high earning tenured folks and hire new college grads
Your name wouldn't happen to be Bob Slidell now would it?
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:37 pm to elprez00
remote employees stay in their drawers and watch a lot of tv
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:39 pm to elprez00
I worked from home yesterday afternoon and all of today. Yes it's fine for a while, but my job requires interaction and meetings, etc. We really to have to connect with people.
Most La companies in general are probably finally catching up to the remote office stuff that the rest of the country has accepted 15 years ago.
Most La companies in general are probably finally catching up to the remote office stuff that the rest of the country has accepted 15 years ago.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:07 pm to East Coast Band
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Bosses would have a tough time trusting their employees are remaining productive while at home. Sure it can be done, but all the ones I know that "work from home" will always find tha extra time to work in the yard, run a few errands, etc. that would not otherwise be able to do while at an office all day.
Are they actually interested in productivity, or just making sure a employee has their butt in a office chair for 8 hours? If the latter their days are numbered just like the traditional business "office"
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:09 pm to elprez00
This will not turn out well for productivity overall. You would like to think that offices are an old construct only because they were needed before technology. They provide structure that most humans need. The ability to get distracted at home is MUCH easier than an office setting. There are also those that crave those more guided structure of an office setting.
I work from home and am fine with it. My wife CAN work from home but she chooses to drive 45 mins to an office for the structure and she feels she gets much more accomplished at work.
I work from home and am fine with it. My wife CAN work from home but she chooses to drive 45 mins to an office for the structure and she feels she gets much more accomplished at work.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:14 pm to elprez00
What will really bake your noodle is when you and millions of other people get their jobs eliminated via algorithms, machine learning and AI that large companies are already leveraging more and more.
It’ll make you talking down the end of your nose about people or businesses that adhere to the archaic notion of an office place highly ironic.
Having said that, 80-90% of folks don’t possess the disciplined assertiveness to work off site without direct presence supervision consistently.
It’ll make you talking down the end of your nose about people or businesses that adhere to the archaic notion of an office place highly ironic.
Having said that, 80-90% of folks don’t possess the disciplined assertiveness to work off site without direct presence supervision consistently.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:18 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Is that Chickens participation trophies in the corner?
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:18 pm to dewster
How would you save on rent
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:21 pm to elprez00
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video conferencing
Also for those that think this is used widespread in a corporate environment, it is not. Most of us have tape over our cameras and never use it. This may change with the snapchat generation, but I also guarantee a further breakdown in their social abilities if this all happens.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:57 pm to East Coast Band
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Bosses would have a tough time trusting their employees are remaining productive while at home.
See, this is playing right into what the OP is saying.
For almost every career, there should be a maximum of two standards for productivity: defined task completion (objective metric) and availability (remaining on-call for when the unexpected happens and your expertise is needed).
Phone and laptop take care of the latter. For the former, if I have to complete Task #1, #2, and #3 every Tuesday and I can do all of them from home, does it matter if I mow the yard from 10-12p or run errands from 345-445p so long as those tasks get completed? The idea that it takes 40-60 hours at a desk to complete 1000 different jobs of varying difficulty and expertise is laughable,
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:59 pm to jimbeam
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How would you save on rent
Less office space?
I’ve been working in the professional world for about 7.5 years now, 5 of those years have been spent in jobs where I can work remotely. I don’t think I would take another job that requires me to work from an office.
My current division is located in Atlanta, and I have clients in Kansas City, a Philly suburb, and Greenville South Carolina. Working remotely doesn’t hamper my ability to communicate with co-workers or my clients.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:03 pm to elprez00
I honestly find conference calls to be less productive than in-person meetings if there's more than 2 parties involved AND the topics are low-level/technical in any way. If it's just a couple of people collaborating, or if it's high-level or administrative in nature then conference calls are preferred.
You can get so much out of body language when you're trying to size up others' opinions in technical discussions that it's not even funny. Plus there's a lot of talking over each other on conference calls that turns people off.
Then there's the classic "If you're talking right now you're on mute".
You can get so much out of body language when you're trying to size up others' opinions in technical discussions that it's not even funny. Plus there's a lot of talking over each other on conference calls that turns people off.
Then there's the classic "If you're talking right now you're on mute".
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:04 pm to Muthsera
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For almost every career, there should be a maximum of two standards for productivity: defined task completion (objective metric) and availability (remaining on-call for when the unexpected happens and your expertise is needed).
Phone and laptop take care of the latter. For the former, if I have to complete Task #1, #2, and #3 every Tuesday and I can do all of them from home, does it matter if I mow the yard from 10-12p or run errands from 345-445p so long as those tasks get completed? The idea that it takes 40-60 hours at a desk to complete 1000 different jobs of varying difficulty and expertise is laughable,
10000000000000000 up votes.
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Bosses would have a tough time trusting their employees are remaining productive while at home.
Is abhorrently ignorant. The boss trusts the guy to be productive because he completes his tasks on time. Same as an office setting. Who gives a shite when or where the employee does his work as long as he does it completely and on time.
That old dinosaur way of thinking employees must remain in an office 60 hours a week or they're not being productive is so unbelievably counter productive.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:05 pm to elprez00
It’s coming to an end soon. The problem is it’s very hard to separate work/life balance. Especially when companies demand more and expect you to stay in constant contact.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:06 pm to elprez00
I worked from home today with no problems. Entire team did.
In a places where traffic sucks it should be a benefit to employees. You could even have employees share an office or desk an alternate days they come in. All kinds of options.
In a places where traffic sucks it should be a benefit to employees. You could even have employees share an office or desk an alternate days they come in. All kinds of options.
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