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re: This is the ONLY answer to school shootings
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:02 pm to UpToPar
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:02 pm to UpToPar
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Point me to the part of the constitution stating that the right of the people to smoke cigarettes shall not be infringed. Thanks.
Well, the effect of that has been a positive one with less smoking than ever. Of course that was not the only approach instituted...it was multipronged and it's worked.
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:03 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I'm not sure I agree with that. If retail gun prices skyrocketed, yes a black market might still exist, but do you really think "the street" would continue to sell a handgun for $150 that retails for $300, if getting a new one in a store instead cost $5,000? Hell no. The black market would also go up and it'd still make it more difficult to get a gun.
Guns would come in from other countries.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:03 pm to UpToPar
Point me in the constitution where a stricter background check infringes on the right to bear arms.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:04 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Agreed. Every time there has been a law that took rights away from people, boom, a black market gets created. My car with no seatbelts was super expensive to buy on the black market, but totally worth it.
Easily the most retarded reply in this thread.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:05 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Well, the effect of that has been a positive one with less smoking than ever.
I'm not saying sin taxes have not had a positive effect, but we are only a few decades removed from discovering the horrific health effects of smoking. I think that has contributed to the overall decrease more than anything else.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:05 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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We're just "woke" enough to see the significant role the tool plays.
Woke simply means your susceptible to propaganda
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I’m just trying to get my argument down to yalls level 
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:06 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Agreed. Every time there has been a law that took rights away from people, boom, a black market gets created.
Prohibition worked well. Just like marijuana prohibition and the war on drugs has worked. There are more guns in circulation than people in the US.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:06 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Point me in the constitution where a stricter background check infringes on the right to bear arms.
This is becoming futile. If you don't understand the basic application of the constitution then this discussion isnt worth having.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:07 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Well, the effect of that has been a positive one with less smoking than ever
Yep. Kids no longer smoke do they?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:08 pm to Indfanfromcol
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I’m just trying to get my argument down to yalls level
Wut
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:08 pm to TH03
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Yes let's spread our police force even more thin to prevent something that happens like 1-2 times a year on average.
Damn ubstupid
Do you know how many school shootings have happened in 2018 already? You need to do some serious research.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:15 pm to UpToPar
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Guns would come in from other countries.
Again, it's cost, and ease of access...both of those would impact any illegal gun trade. The US is far and away the largest gun producer in the world.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:21 pm to UpToPar
I agree. If you think the constitution was put in place so you can do whatever you want however you want and how you want it, then there isn’t really any thing to discuss.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:22 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Again, it's cost, and ease of access...both of those would impact any illegal gun trade. The US is far and away the largest gun producer in the world.
Foreign SKS or AKs are dirt cheap.
The gun trade will become like the drug trade. There are people hoarding AR parts right now. 3D printing will help quite a bit as well.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:24 pm to TDsngumbo
No, I'm not forking out more tax dollars for more government employees.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:25 pm to Indfanfromcol
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I agree. If you think the constitution was put in place so you can do whatever you want however you want and how you want it, then there isn’t really any thing to discuss.
The constitution was written to limit government actions on the people. It does not grant rights
You are born with rights, the government takes them away.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:29 pm to Indfanfromcol
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I agree. If you think the constitution was put in place so you can do whatever you want however you want and how you want it, then there isn’t really any thing to discuss.
The constitution was put in place to prevent the government from infringing on rights the framers thought to be essential to a free democracy. Making a right more difficult to exercise falls well within the definition of infringement.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:39 pm to UpToPar
You’re right. However, the constitution wasn’t made so that we live in a free for all, no rules society. The right to bear arms isn’t a, have whatever type of weapon you want, thing. Or else why not let me buy a bomb? Or a rocket launcher? Or a wmd?
I think what it comes down to is that you millennials don’t know anything about self sacrifices. It’s all about you and no other person matters.
I think what it comes down to is that you millennials don’t know anything about self sacrifices. It’s all about you and no other person matters.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:44 pm to Indfanfromcol
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The right to bear arms isn’t a, have whatever type of weapon you want, thing
I never said it was.
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Or else why not let me buy a bomb?
You can own a bomb.
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Or a rocket launcher? Or a wmd?
Oh look, this tired arse argument.
Depending on which constitutional interpretation theory you subscribe to (I suspect you're not exactly certain what that means), "arms" within the meaning of the second amendment includes arms necessary to fight an oppressive government.
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I think what it comes down to is that you millennials don’t know anything about self sacrifices. It’s all about you and no other person matters.
I'm pretty sure no millennials were involved with the drafting of the constitution. Take it up with the framers.
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