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re: This is the ONLY answer to school shootings
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:00 am to TH03
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:00 am to TH03
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Yes let's spread our police force even more thin to prevent something that happens like 1-2 times a year on average.
Why are you against helping to protect our children simply because things rarely happen to them? Do you also not buckle up since you rarely get into car accidents? Do you leave your doors unlocked at night since home invasions really only happen a couple times a year in your area?
There are plenty of officers out here. The funding to put them in schools full-time is not. Demand more out of the government because the demand for that simply is not there right now. Hopefully that changes now.
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:00 am to LSUbase13
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You remove everything from your pockets, go through a metal detector, have a wand waived over you, etc.
Because that just creates a choke point and easy targets?
You think the shooter will think, oh shite, I can't bring my gun past that metal detector? Oh well, guess I won't kill anyone then. I mean I was going to Slaughter as many innocent people as a could, but not if I can't do it in the school building.
fricking retard.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 11:05 am
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:00 am to TDsngumbo
Most schools already have SOR'S, basically school cops. If we start putting more cops in schools we will either have to A. Raise taxes to fund this or B. Have less cops patrolling on a daily basis.
And while it probably wouldn't be too difficult to get someone to take a job as an SOR, we already have a deficit in police due to the high risk and low pay.
I don't think there is one glaring answer, I think it's a combination of many of the things people are saying. Some mental health, some gun control, and some ease of ability to make the shootings possible. I think we all need to stop acting like one of those is the definite answer and be more open to others opinions and essentially reach a politically acceptable compromise.
And while it probably wouldn't be too difficult to get someone to take a job as an SOR, we already have a deficit in police due to the high risk and low pay.
I don't think there is one glaring answer, I think it's a combination of many of the things people are saying. Some mental health, some gun control, and some ease of ability to make the shootings possible. I think we all need to stop acting like one of those is the definite answer and be more open to others opinions and essentially reach a politically acceptable compromise.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:01 am to TDsngumbo
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There are plenty of officers out here.
Where exact is "here" for you? Because there are sure as frick not an abundance of officers where I live.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:01 am to LSUbase13
Yes...at least have some security checkpoint to enter. I can walk right in the HS of my children with no questions asked and in 5 seconds I can be in the lunchroom. The office is right there as you enter after the first hallway...doors always closed and no one concerned about who enters.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:01 am to TDsngumbo
Nah, it's definitely A possible answer. Certainly not the ONLY. There are so many factors.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:01 am to UpToPar
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The problem is, you need more than one. With only 1 armed police officer, the officer will be the shooters first target and then he will go on with the rest of his plan with no resistance.
100% agree. That's why we need to demand that government gives schools the funds to hire 3 or more armed officers at each school.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:02 am to fightin tigers
quote:saving even one kids life would make it worth it
The result might be a few less casualties when they do happen.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:02 am to TDsngumbo
Also, I fail to see how having an armed officer prevents these tragedies?
The shooter just goes through a different door or different building or kills as many as he can until the officer shows up.
The shooter just goes through a different door or different building or kills as many as he can until the officer shows up.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:02 am to TDsngumbo
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This is the ONLY answer to school shootings
I disagree.
A perfectly reasonable approach would be for all schools to operate aboard Airbus A380s as they fly around for 8 hours a day.
We should literally treat going to school like boarding an airplane and none of this shite would happen.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:03 am to TDsngumbo
Because it's a dumb fricking bandaid solution dude. And those comparisons are even dumber because they involve free solutions.
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There are plenty of officers out here.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:03 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I’m all for more security at the schools. I would also like to see certain teachers be trained and allowed to have a gun in their classroom locked up.
The thing is that a lot of places can't afford to do it. Some counties have one resource officer covering 3 and 4 schools. It's not that it is necessarily a bad idea, but it would take a lot of federal funding.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 11:05 am
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:04 am to Breesus
Yeah one cop with a pistol is gonna stop the guy with an AR
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:04 am to tiddlesmcdiddles
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but you cant put a price on the lives of our nations children.
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saving even one kids life would make it worth it
Unless part of that "price" is telling people they can't own certain guns. In that case the status quo and having one of these situations occur every year or two is acceptable.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 11:08 am
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:04 am to Bluefin
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We should literally treat going to school like boarding an airplane and none of this shite would happen.
Yeah I agree. There has not been one single incident of a mass casualty terrorist attack at an airport before the security checkpoint. No wait.....
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:05 am to TDsngumbo
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This is the ONLY answer to school shootings
Actually, a far more effective way would be to wall the schools off and require TSA style checkpoints to get in. Cops in the school are mainly reactive.
Despite the fact, these are "our" children the debate about cost is real.
Then you have the debate over how schools look and feel more like prisons.
In the end tragedies like this are part of the cost of freedom. Each individual has a different price they are willing to pay as an individual and as a society.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:05 am to Breesus
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Why some of you want to surrender your freedoms and put massive corruptible powers in the hands of government I will never ever understand
What about requiring multiple armed officers in each school takes away our freedoms and puts massive amounts of corruptible powers into the hands of government?
CHILDREN are precious and need to be protected. I bet you would throw a temper tantrum if you arrive at the airport next time you travel and all the security has been eliminated. Why the frick can't we secure our schools?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:05 am to SPEEDY
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The same groups that are crying for gun control are starting to demand police be removed from schools
Link?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:05 am to TDsngumbo
The school in Florida had an armed officer on campus. It didn't help.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:05 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I would also like to see certain teachers be trained and allowed to have a gun
I have never met a teacher I would want to be the person having to engage an armed combatant in any crisis situation.
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in their classroom locked up.
defeats the purpose of the gun IMO. arming oneself for self-defense is only effective if the weapon is readily available. I am seriously skeptical that a teacher- like most citizens- could effectively access a locked weapon during a crisis situation.
JMO.
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