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re: Travel Ball Mecca
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:57 pm to lsu777
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:57 pm to lsu777
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i can tell may of yall are some low achieving mother frickers. yall have no concept of sacrifice and hard work, thats for damn sure.
I’ve built my own successful business from the ground up. I know a thing or two about hard work.
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and i didnt say it was
You don’t need to….it’s in all of your posts.
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dont like hs sports at all, thats all good....but for some kids, its important to them. and just because you play hs sports doesnt mean you dont care about academics either.
No one said they didn’t like sports francis, but it comes to a point where it simply makes no sense. I.e. sending little Johnny to a high school an Hr away so he continue “his athletic career”.
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:59 pm to Midtiger farm
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Pretty sure they don’t in the Acadiana area and sw LA. Lots of kids play both travel and rec but I know a few of the better ones that just play rec and if the kids I’m talking about keep growing at a normal rate and just play rec/all stars they will make the HS team at 2 good baseball programs
ive coached rec last 8 years as my oldest is not a travel kid....the rec leagues suck. a good 10u majors team would beat the ll all star teams. there are a couple good kids that played just rec this year after being in travel but in general, rec is not very good at all.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:02 pm to lsu777
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777Tiger
quote:dammit
lsu777
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:05 pm to lsu777
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ive coached rec last 8 years as my oldest is not a travel kid....the rec leagues suck. a good 10u majors team would beat the ll all star teams. there are a couple good kids that played just rec this year after being in travel but in general, rec is not very good at all.
How do they suck when I know for a fact that 90% of the all star teams are made up of kids that also play some kind of travel and some of the better kids are playing together on all stars which they will also play together in Hs but they play on different travel teams
They are hardly any kids worth a shite that just play travel
And this is for multiple towns I’m talking about
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:06 pm to TJG210
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I’ve built my own successful business from the ground up. I know a thing or two about hard work.
ok cool, you are the rarity on this board.
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No one said they didn’t like sports francis, but it comes to a point where it simply makes no sense. I.e. sending little Johnny to a high school an Hr away so he continue “his athletic career”.
who said anything about this and i dunno anyone who does this. maybe its because we are in LC and nobody does that here.
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You don’t need to….it’s in all of your posts.
i think you misunderstand my post completely. its hard to convey context on here.
1) academics will always be first in my house. always. make a 4.0 or you dont play is the rule.
2) sports are important if the kid likes sports. If he likes something else...that is important. for my oldest, robotics is important...sports are too but they are secondary for him on that. he doesnt play travel ball, he did but it wasnt for him. said its too much work and i respect that. he prefers football and throwing in track.
My middle is my best ball player and is the one that is most responsible, makes the best grades, and frankly excels in everything. So yea sports, well baseball, is extremely important to him. Isnt to me, but is to him so i support him.
my youngest plays travel ball but basketball is most to him.
its cool your successful, i happen to be pretty damn successful and so is my wife. im an engineer and she owns her own business thats damn successful. both of us have degrees, its not like we are all in on sports. we arent chasing some dream that our kid is going to be drafted out of school etc etc
if my kids dont play in HS, thats on them and their lack of work ethic. im not moving them schools. we send them to private now and they can choose what HS they go to but no switching after that, atleast not for sports. thats dumb.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:10 pm to Midtiger farm
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How do they suck when I know for a fact that 90% of the all star teams are made up of kids that also play some kind of travel and some of the better kids are playing together on all stars which they will also play together in Hs but they play on different travel teams
They are hardly any kids worth a shite that just play travel
how do they suck? have you been to the regular season games? and have you ever went and watched the state tournament for LL?
i can tell you the leagues suck. i know i coached in it the last 8 years. and the better kids only play travel.
for example, there wasnt a single kid that threw 60 plus in slc ll this year. that is really common in 10u travel in the majors division. 12u majors kids are throwing 72+ in travel routinely. and 12 year old little league gets more of the kids back than any other age and its still not good compared to high level travel at that age.
but believe what you want.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:17 pm to lsu777
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ive coached rec last 8 years as my oldest is not a travel kid....the rec leagues suck. a good 10u majors team would beat the ll all star teams. there are a couple good kids that played just rec this year after being in travel but in general, rec is not very good at all.
At 10 years old, who cares.
When my son played, I watched/tracked a 8 major team as it fell to 12 AA. Great at 8. Barely average at 12. All the same kids.
Time caught up to them all. Recommend serious travel ball starting at 13. At least you are pretty sure what a kid can physically do and if they have a mind for it. My 2 cents.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:18 pm to TJG210
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No one said they didn’t like sports francis, but it comes to a point where it simply makes no sense. I.e. sending little Johnny to a high school an Hr away so he continue “his athletic career”.
We got Facebook moms in Chalmette talking about what they’re gonna do now that John Curtis won’t have a bus coming down here
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:28 pm to Alltheway Tigers!
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Recommend serious travel ball starting at 13
that's 1 year away from HS,,, little late IMO.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:31 pm to lsu777
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lsu777
What are your opinions of teams having tryouts for 5U - 8U?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:32 pm to BugAC
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What are your opinions of teams having tryouts for 5U - 8U?
what's wrong with tryouts from 5u-8u? Specifically i'd say 6u-8u?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:38 pm to lsu777
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and the better kids only play travel.
This is not true in multiple towns that feed schools that have won recent state championships and make the state tournament almost every year
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:42 pm to BugAC
there is no travel ball in louisiana in 5/6 that i know of. 7u depends on the kid. 8u if the kid is ready for it, you should. but its all based on the kid.
whats right for my kid and family, might not be right for your kid and your family.
dont want your kid asking to not go or askign to sit out innings. see that alot in 7/8 from kids that are only there because the parents make them. that sucks for the kid, the team mates and the coaches.
i cant tell you when to start, thats based on each kid. what i can tell you....the later you wait to start, harder it is to catch up if the kid has a real desire to be really good. can also tell you, if you wait until 13 like suggested above...you are not making any team above a low level AA team and if you are still playing AA ball at 13, no real point if you desire is to go to a HS with a really good program like we names earlier.
whats right for my kid and family, might not be right for your kid and your family.
dont want your kid asking to not go or askign to sit out innings. see that alot in 7/8 from kids that are only there because the parents make them. that sucks for the kid, the team mates and the coaches.
i cant tell you when to start, thats based on each kid. what i can tell you....the later you wait to start, harder it is to catch up if the kid has a real desire to be really good. can also tell you, if you wait until 13 like suggested above...you are not making any team above a low level AA team and if you are still playing AA ball at 13, no real point if you desire is to go to a HS with a really good program like we names earlier.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:43 pm to Chad504boy
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what's wrong with tryouts from 5u-8u? Specifically i'd say 6u-8u?
My personal feelings are that "coaches" that do this at this age are merely chasing rings and not really coaches. Doesn't take talent as a coach to stack teams with kids who happen to me more naturally athletic at such early ages.
Not to mention, it's a dick move to cut kids at that age.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:44 pm to Midtiger farm
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This is not true in multiple towns that feed schools that have won recent state championships and make the state tournament almost every year
who? none of the bigger schools. name the school.
i mean sure might be true for kinder and south beau but they are way away from places. same with rosepine. but the bigger schools in the metro areas, the best kids play travel only. they may go play 1 year of rec to try and make LLWS but thats it.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:45 pm to lsu777
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there is no travel ball in louisiana in 5/6 that i know of. 7u depends on the kid. 8u if the kid is ready for it, you should. but its all based on the kid.
I guess i'm referring to the pre-travel ball leagues like Traction.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:46 pm to BugAC
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My personal feelings are that "coaches" that do this at this age are merely chasing rings and not really coaches. Doesn't take talent as a coach to stack teams with kids who happen to me more naturally athletic at such early ages.
Not to mention, it's a dick move to cut kids at that age.
well your question is vague and really no idea as to the actual context you are referring to. It's also important in ages to play in the same caliber level of ball that you can succeed in.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:50 pm to BugAC
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it's a dick move to cut kids at that age.
it isnt at 8u, even 7u imo. some kids are willing to work harder and some are only there because parents make them. it sucks for the kids who work hard outside of practice to be on a team with a kid who doesnt even want to be there and is always asking to sit, seen that many times.
or a kid that refuses to work outside of practice and is falling behind.
baseball isnt for everyone. neither is basketball and other sports.
coaches need to actually coach fundamentals but seen it plenty of times where the kid doesnt want to be out there and wont work hard. WTF is the coach supposed to do?
and this isnt rec, you take the best kids so long as everything is equal, like parents etc.
and speaking of parents, are kids supposed to not be cut when parents are a pain in the arse? seen plenty of times where the parent is constantly on the coach cause they want their kid to play infield, cause he will hate baseball if he only plays outfield. Well its supposed to be best kid plays, not where parents want them to play.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:51 pm to BugAC
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I guess i'm referring to the pre-travel ball leagues like Traction.
my nephew plays in that, from my understanding, tryouts are just so coaches can see the better kids and kind of disperse them. correct me if im wrong.
many little leagues have that, even in tball. allows most of the teams to be decently even and not have 1 team killing everyone.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:55 pm to Chad504boy
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It's also important in ages to play in the same caliber level of ball that you can succeed in.
this
if you have an 8u team where most of the kids are ready for aaa ball but a couple are lower level aa players, it makes sense to cut those kids. for the teams sake and for the kids because it is going to be miserable.
now if the kid is just raw, thats different.
but from a parental perspective, you have to not have daddy eyes and be realistic. Like my 12 year old, if he told me today he wanted to tryout for 13u i would have to have a real conversation with him and let him know that he may not make any team and he is going to have to work harder than he ever has just to make a AA team at that.
got to be realistic and with how cheap things like radar guns, cage sessions with hit trax, bat sensors etc are...you can easily get some objective data and compare your kids to charts you find online or the PG data base and know about what level your kid should play at. set the kid up for success, doesnt mean you cant work hard and improve.
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