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Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:57 pm to
There's your answer, slack more bro.
Posted by purpleleaf
Member since Aug 2011
4004 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

frick your bosses wife, take a shite on his desk, and tell him to frick himself


Better if he has a daughter.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
12020 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:59 pm to
If you think it sucks now, just wait till they ask you to clean up his messes.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16921 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:01 pm to
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OT -300000.72, no thanks.


You are showing your commitment by fricking her.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69779 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:02 pm to
Hmmm logistics? That's pretty board; however I am certain you'd find another job easily
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8675 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:08 pm to
That job sounds like an administrative job, not a leadership job. It doesnt involve critical thinking or strategic ownership of anything. It sounds like an entry level job, not a promotion.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69779 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:10 pm to
I'm glad I have decided to apply for pa school once I get out the army. I can find work almost anywhere or start my own clinic once I finish.
Posted by horndog
*edited by ADMIN
Member since Apr 2007
11878 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:14 pm to
I would challenge whoever is in charge to a fight and bust him in the back of the head when he wasnt looking if he agrees. You dont want to take a chance with a person that will fight with his employees.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
38560 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:20 pm to
Pretty sure it's been said, but:

Relax. Be friendly, just like always. Be a team player.

Meanwhile, get your act together. Start networking, polish your résumé, and take another job. You are done here.
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7559 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I wouldn't do anything rash, but you need to understand this is the direction companies are going. They will constantly look to save on costs, and do what they can to push older/higher paid workers out the door.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33579 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:57 pm to
Saw a similar situation where two of the four people that interviewed for a management position quit within three weeks of the company making the hire. The deal breaker for them was the guy that got the job didn't have to go through a three month probationary period that they endured. They competed against each other on some projects doing tons of extra work. Everyone in the office was stunned when they delayed announcing a decision & told them a fourth guy in the office was also being considered. The guy that was brought in late got the job. One of the other people left immediately & the second one left a couple of weeks later.

Both of the people that left ended up with good jobs but it was at a time where a good job was easier to find than now. The one guy that stayed was there for only a couple more years. He wasn't very productive afterwards. The manager is still there.

It felt like the owners saw enough of the three that had applied to know they didn't want any of them in the position. Might have been easier for them to have an outsider come in like your situation. I think I would have also left, but like I said before, it was in a much healthier economy.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16972 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:04 pm to
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due to an outside hire fresh out of college with 0 experience in the field


They will regret doing this. Trust me
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7559 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:04 pm to
law of supply and demand. Employees are at employer's mercy.


quote:

Some people would have you believe that employment relations are just like any other market transaction; workers have something to sell, employers want to buy what they offer, and they simply make a deal. But anyone who has ever held a job in the real world — or, for that matter, seen a Dilbert cartoon — knows that it’s not like that.

The fact is that employment generally involves a power relationship: you have a boss, who tells you what to do, and if you refuse, you may be fired. This doesn’t have to be a bad thing. If employers value their workers, they won’t make unreasonable demands. But it’s not a simple transaction. There’s a country music classic titled “Take This Job and Shove It.” There isn’t and won’t be a song titled “Take This Consumer Durable and Shove It.”

So employment is a power relationship, and high unemployment has greatly weakened workers’ already weak position in that relationship.

We can actually quantify that weakness by looking at the quits rate — the percentage of workers voluntarily leaving their jobs (as opposed to being fired) each month. Obviously, there are many reasons a worker might want to leave his or her job. Quitting is, however, a risk; unless a worker already has a new job lined up, he or she doesn’t know how long it will take to find a new job, and how that job will compare with the old one.

And the risk of quitting is much greater when unemployment is high, and there are many more people seeking jobs than there are job openings. As a result, you would expect to see the quits rate rise during booms, fall during slumps — and, indeed, it does. Quits plunged during the 2007-9 recession, and they have only partially rebounded, reflecting the weakness and inadequacy of our economic recovery.

Now think about what this means for workers’ bargaining power. When the economy is strong, workers are empowered. They can leave if they’re unhappy with the way they’re being treated and know that they can quickly find a new job if they are let go. When the economy is weak, however, workers have a very weak hand, and employers are in a position to work them harder, pay them less, or both.

Is there any evidence that this is happening? And how. The economic recovery has, as I said, been weak and inadequate, but all the burden of that weakness is being borne by workers. Corporate profits plunged during the financial crisis, but quickly bounced back, and they continued to soar. Indeed, at this point, after-tax profits are more than 60 percent higher than they were in 2007, before the recession began. We don’t know how much of this profit surge can be explained by the fear factor — the ability to squeeze workers who know that they have no place to go. But it must be at least part of the explanation. In fact, it’s possible (although by no means certain) that corporate interests are actually doing better in a somewhat depressed economy than they would if we had full employment.

What’s more, I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to suggest that this reality helps explain why our political system has turned its backs on the unemployed. No, I don’t believe that there’s a secret cabal of C.E.O.’s plotting to keep the economy weak. But I do think that a major reason why reducing unemployment isn’t a political priority is that the economy may be lousy for workers, but corporate America is doing just fine.

And once you understand this, you also understand why it’s so important to change those priorities.

There’s been a somewhat strange debate among progressives lately, with some arguing that populism and condemnations of inequality are a diversion, that full employment should instead be the top priority. As some leading progressive economists have pointed out, however, full employment is itself a populist issue: weak labor markets are a main reason workers are losing ground, and the excessive power of corporations and the wealthy is a main reason we aren’t doing anything about jobs.

Too many Americans currently live in a climate of economic fear. There are many steps that we can take to end that state of affairs, but the most important is to put jobs back on the agenda.


This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 4:08 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71574 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:05 pm to
Turned down for what?
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23509 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:14 pm to
Dude start looking for another job Monday but do it on there time. I would do as little as possible without them knowing your pissed.
Posted by Zantrix
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2009
7940 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Turned down for what?



A marathon.
Posted by Sky Dog
Elsewhere From P
Member since Oct 2013
75 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:28 pm to
The best time to look for a job is when you have one.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41570 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Don't piss and moan, work your arse off, and everything will fall into place.


I've first hand seen this can get you no where.

OP, if possible I'd start looking around at other options in your field. This move clearly shows management is more concerned about $ than having a more experience employee in a position.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127044 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:12 pm to
Walk. If they do not value you then value yourself.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13815 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:47 pm to
So is this kid now your supervisor who you'll have to report to? That's a true kick in the nuts if so.

I had something similar happen (being told I was in line for the next promotion) a few years ago. At least it was given to someone who had seniority on me, but he wasn't putting up the #s I was. Anyway, I left and it was the best decision I ever made. I'm actually glad they screwed me over

You should immediately begin a job search all the while working like you always have. Have a smile on your face and kill those cheap fricks with kindness. You never know who or what you'll run into down the line in your professional career, so no reason to burn bridges.

Put in your 2 weeks notice as soon as you accept the other offer. Enjoy the hell out of the moment you get to walk into their office and do it.
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