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Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:05 pm to Adam Banks
I don’t give a shite.
I’m not giving my kid a shite life because I want children. That’s called being a shitty parent.
Right now I can’t provide the QoL they deserve. That’s just the way it is.
I’m not giving my kid a shite life because I want children. That’s called being a shitty parent.
Right now I can’t provide the QoL they deserve. That’s just the way it is.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:11 pm to Dire Wolf
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According to ChatGPT, I could spend 14 days in Europe out of Houston for less than three months of what I pay in Daycare/pre-school for 2 kids. Depending on what I was doing there, I am sure it would be more than the high estimate.
Yeah.
So maybe plan on the European vacation in your 50s like people used to do
Sounds like a pretty major expense that’s becoming seemingly normalized
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You had no exposure to what other people were doing on vacation
See back in my day people had these things called friends.
You would talk to each other and one of the big things is what you did over the summer.
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People did not magically start going to Disney World in 2025.
Going to Disney was a BIG deal as a kid.
It wasn’t a magical thing that people started going but it used to be a bucket list thing.
Kind of a once in a childhood thing.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:13 pm to Odysseus32
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Right now I can’t provide the QoL they deserve. That’s just the way it is.
You are just denying them a life at all
Big win for them
I promise you kids when they are young don’t have a concept of what “they deserve”
Wait too long and that’s when the “fertility issues” start to creep in
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:14 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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What kind of circles are yall running in? I'm in my mid 30s and basically everyone I went hung out with in college and law school has kids. A few had one and are done, but the vast majority either have 2+ already or they're working on it. I know two women I graduated law school with who are out there posting overseas vacation pics while the other 20 I still keep in touch with all have growing families.
The circles where the birth rate in the US is the lowest it’s been?
I mean the data doesn’t lie
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:30 pm to Adam Banks
The covid vaccine made the muggles infertile. 
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:40 pm to theronswanson
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What about a direct correlation between the cost of living and a declining birth rate?
This falls under the war on Christianity.
When people stopped learning and caring about Gods plan for the family they started focusing on things like money and what they would be having to give up financially if they raised with family of 5 or 6 kids.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:07 pm to Adam Banks
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This kinda rubs me the wrong way.
Oh well. frick your feelings
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:16 pm to bamacoullion
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Seriously, what's happening is greatly jab related. It's working as designed and there is nothing we can do about it. Like it or not, jabbed or not, it's the truth
It has resulted in sterility in a large number of young women.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:19 pm to Adam Banks
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The circles where the birth rate in the US is the lowest it’s been?
That’s too bad. I feel average at my kids’ school with 3 kids.
I coached cabbage ball earlier this summer and every single kid on the team had multiple siblings.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:53 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I feel average at my kids’ school with 3 kids. I coached cabbage ball earlier this summer and every single kid on the team had multiple siblings.
Oh I’m sure your anecdotal experience around families who have made a conscious decision to have kids makes the national data about the public at large invalid.
Makes sense.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:58 pm to Adam Banks
I read somewhere that it costs like $250,000 to raise a kid.
...and that's just for the alcohol
...and that's just for the alcohol
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:01 pm to Sofaking2
The population of Muslims in the West doubles every 10 years. Do the math.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:08 pm to CapitalTiger
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2 for me.. and we are done
You folks are going to have to pick up the slack!
You realize you aren't meeting the replacement rate with 2?
Uh, he literally IS!
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:08 pm to St Augustine
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We had 3. Some of you other baws need to pick up the pace.
We had four by the time we were 29; they have had 8 so far, and we are 63. We’ve done the work of two couples.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:15 pm to Adam Banks
- I personally don't care that an individual couple doesn't want kids. Fine, whatever. I probably can't relate to most of them and I assume our values will be divergent more and more over time (but not always).
- I do think there is a not-insignificant portion of that contingent that will have regrets, and I'm especially opposed to the more bad faith elements of the anti-natalist movement convincing more neutral couples that they're irresponsible if they don't go into family life with everything buttoned up. Historically, few did this, at least in any way that resembles what we're talking about now.
- I don't think it's healthy if that portion of society grows too large. A large swath of life of the planet deciding that creating more life isn't a real priority for them raises both practical and philosophical questions about what is going on down here.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:18 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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That’s too bad. I feel average at my kids’ school with 3 kids.
I coached cabbage ball earlier this summer and every single kid on the team had multiple siblings.
I don't know your circles, but when I was growing up it seemed like everyone had 2 kids. And this was conservative apple pie Baptist America.
Now, in our circle of mostly conservative, mostly well to do, mostly professional class folks, it's trending 3+. So I definitely think that at least in some pockets (probably the same as yours) there is a sort of rebellion going on and an instinct toward larger families than our parents had.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:32 pm to Pettifogger
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I don't know your circles, but when I was growing up it seemed like everyone had 2 kids. And this was conservative apple pie Baptist America.
Now, in our circle of mostly conservative, mostly well to do, mostly professional class folks, it's trending 3+. So I definitely think that at least in some pockets (probably the same as yours) there is a sort of rebellion going on and an instinct toward larger families than our parents had.
True. My wife and I were discussing this a few months back and we realized as we named as many childhood/college friends as we could who had more than one sibling and I think we had like 2 or 3 friends that had multiple siblings. We could name like 60 off the top of our heads that only had one brother or sister. All of these people are millennial children of boomer parents.
I'll go to men's club functions where baws are naturally talking about how the school year is going for their kids and it seems like the majority have 3 or more. And of the men who only have two, it's a coin flip if their wife is pregnant with the third.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:32 pm to Pettifogger
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- I do think there is a not-insignificant portion of that contingent that will have regrets, and I'm especially opposed to the more bad faith elements of the anti-natalist movement convincing more neutral couples that they're irresponsible if they don't go into family life with everything buttoned up. Historically, few did this, at least in any way that resembles what we're talking about now.
There’s only so many vacations that you can go on as a childless couple.
There is a biological instinct to pass along your genes.
This is essentially the plot of Four Christmases.
It’s a very very new phenomenon that somehow people think they need to be well into their careers be in a house with 20% down, able to afford a summer vacation and a few 3 day weekends elsewhere in addition to paying for a kid.
It’s like the entire generation blacked out the early portion of their childhood and expect to live the life that my parents and their peers had when I was in high school/college.
That came after they were 40. Which if you wait till around then…well there’s a biological clock
ETA Until you see your 3 year old be more excited about a drive to Grandmas and Grandpas than vacation or your 2 your old have more fun with the box the toy came in than the Christmas present itself you can’t understand that the kids have no idea what that phenomenon of “the life they deserve” is
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:33 pm to Penrod
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We had four by the time we were 29; they have had 8 so far, and we are 63. We’ve done the work of two couples
If we weren't such awful people, this would be the shite we envied. Nice work, baw.
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