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re: U.S. reaction to 9/11
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:02 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:02 pm to Darth_Vader
Meh, this might make you feel all "frick yeah!", but it's not realistic. We had a lack of targets not a lack of bombs.
I will agree that we should have approached certain governments about taking responsible for organizations in their country but Bush kinda tried that with the " with us or against us " stuff but never really followed through with it.
I'm guessing he wasn't ready to go after Saudi Arabia.
It's pretty complicated but I'm pretty sure more bombs wasn't the answer. Just my $.02
I will agree that we should have approached certain governments about taking responsible for organizations in their country but Bush kinda tried that with the " with us or against us " stuff but never really followed through with it.
I'm guessing he wasn't ready to go after Saudi Arabia.
It's pretty complicated but I'm pretty sure more bombs wasn't the answer. Just my $.02
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 3:03 pm
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:03 pm to dukke v
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And I hate to tell you be we need the rest of the world to get by
They need us more than we need them.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:03 pm to Darth_Vader
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I live in the real world. And in the real world there has been only one way since the dawn of civilization to win a war. That's by breaking your enemy's will to continue fighting. We've pussy-footed around for 14 fricking years and it's got us nowhere. The only way to break their will is through overwhelming force that the enemy cannot withstand. Make them see that to continue attacking and fighting us is pointless and can only end with their complete and total destruction. Is it pretty? No. Will a shite ton of people die? Yes. But I'm sorry to break it to you but it's the only way to win a war.
All true. Political correctness claims another victim. The will to win.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:03 pm to Darth_Vader
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We've pussy-footed around for 14 fricking years
Holy shite. You have to be trolling
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:03 pm to kywildcatfanone
Disagreeing with Cheney's warmongering that completely destabilize the Middle East and empowered Isis is hating America? Welcome to the right wing socialist state.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:04 pm to Darth_Vader
I see you're going with Clausewitzien center of gravity approach. How 19th century of you!
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:05 pm to Grim
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We've pussy-footed around for 14 fricking years
Holy shite. You have to be trolling
Look at the middle east today and you'll see what 14 years of half measures does.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:05 pm to Darth_Vader
If theres a similar terrorist attack on America while Donald Trump is in the White House the Middle East will be wiped off the planet
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:06 pm to lsu2006
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I see you're going with Clausewitzien center of gravity approach. How 19th century of you!
If you can tell me a better way to win a war other than to break the enemy's will then I'm all ears.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:10 pm to Grim
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Do you not remember watching the news ans seeing them rush into the streets to celebrate?
It's clear now that you're thinking emotionally and not tactically
I guess you've forgotten.
Here they're singing fricking songs praising the attacks
ETA: Exactly how old were you on this day in 2001?
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:12 pm to illinitiger
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At least 87 people have died after a crane collapsed on the Grand Mosque of Mecca on Friday, Saudi authorities say.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:15 pm to Grim
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Sure, we could have wiped the middle east off the face of the planet and they would no longer be a threat but I hope that you would have the conscience to know that would be a despicable and disproportionate act
I don't disagree.
But, I'd like to point out that you are making the point that there was no proportional act that would have accomplished anything. So, what should we have done?
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:15 pm to kywildcatfanone
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I think in 14 years since that day, we have completely forgotten that the radical muslim community still wants to kill every non muslim.
I haven't.
Unfortunately, many in the current leadership of this country have.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:17 pm to SEClint
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They need us more than we need them.
To an extent... But we DO need them...........
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:19 pm to SSpaniel
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quote: We were incredibly stupid saying "yes! Take our freedoms away so that scary brown bogeymen won't get us! Use trillions of dollars to poorly execute counterterrorism! Employ Barely functional hominids in the TSA to fondle women and steal Things! Yes, take our freedoms!"
Which of your specific freedoms have been taken away, and how have you been adversely affected, if at all, by the taking away of these freedoms?
My privacy has been invaded. I couldn't bring milk on a plane to feed my infant daughter. My wife was groped by a TSA baboon.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:25 pm to fr33manator
But the southern border is WIDE OPEN for terrorists and drug dealers to flow into this country.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:35 pm to dukke v
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I hate to tell you be we need the rest of the world to get by..... Facts are Facts......
just curious to know what are the facts?
the entire world decides to impose an embargo on the U.S...what happens to us?
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:40 pm to Topwater Trout
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the entire world decides to impose an embargo on the U.S...what happens to us?
We would struggle...We may recover but it would be a severe blow to our economy.....
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:43 pm to dukke v
quote:Russia would support us.
I understand what you are trying to ay... BUT The rest of the world would turn against us... And I hate to tell you be we need the rest of the world to get by..... Facts are Facts......
Posted on 9/11/15 at 3:50 pm to dukke v
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the entire world decides to impose an embargo on the U.S...what happens to us?
We would struggle...We may recover but it would be a severe blow to our economy.....
and it would be an even bigger blow to all the countries where we're one of their largest, if not the largest trading partners.
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