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re: Vader’s Model Desk: M3 Stuart Light Tank Top
Posted on 2/15/26 at 9:44 pm to cattus
Posted on 2/15/26 at 9:44 pm to cattus
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Good work on that piece of shite.
The tank's 37mm main armament could shoot Canister rounds. Do you know what that does to enemy Infantry?
This tank was at no time a piece of shite. It's 37mm gun could knock out the 1941 Axis tanks.
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Posted on 2/15/26 at 9:53 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 2/15/26 at 10:06 pm to Champagne
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This tank was at no time a piece of shite. It's 37mm gun could knock out the 1941 Axis tanks.
The 37mm could penetrate 36mm of armor at 500 yards. Beyond that range, its armor penetration fell off quickly.
Th frontal armor of the Pz.kpfw III Ausf F (a common variant in 1941) was 30mm.
The frontal armor of the Pz.kpfw IV Ausf E (a common variant in 1941) had frontal armor 30mm with another layer of 30mm armor plating added on top to give a total of 60mm.
So, for a Stuart to deal with a Pz. III, it had to get to within 500 yards, while the Pz III Ausf F’s 5cm main gun could penetrate the Stuart’s frontal armor from over three times that distance.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:41 am to Darth_Vader
You are comparing the M3 Stuart to Germany's heaviest tanks of 1941, so, of course, the Stuart would need to get within 500 meters to be a threat UNLESS it could get a flank shot, of which there were many in the mobile desert war.
Those "heavy" upgraded Pzkw III and Pzkw IV German tanks did not abound in the 1941 version of the Afrika Korps, so, the M3 Stuart was valuable in North Africa in 1941. The early Pzkw III and Pzkw IV models had fairly thin armor that was vulnerable to the Stuart's 37mm main gun.
I do not contend that it was the best tank in North Africa in 1941. I contend that it was not a "piece of shite."
The fact that the US Army fielded upgraded Stuarts until the end of WW2 supports the contention that it provided value on the battlefield, when it could avoid Germany's main battle tanks and heavy tanks.
1941 in North Africa is a fascinating campaign to study. Rommel was compelled to take his forces back to the campaign start line. The Allies managed to pushed him back.
Those "heavy" upgraded Pzkw III and Pzkw IV German tanks did not abound in the 1941 version of the Afrika Korps, so, the M3 Stuart was valuable in North Africa in 1941. The early Pzkw III and Pzkw IV models had fairly thin armor that was vulnerable to the Stuart's 37mm main gun.
I do not contend that it was the best tank in North Africa in 1941. I contend that it was not a "piece of shite."
The fact that the US Army fielded upgraded Stuarts until the end of WW2 supports the contention that it provided value on the battlefield, when it could avoid Germany's main battle tanks and heavy tanks.
1941 in North Africa is a fascinating campaign to study. Rommel was compelled to take his forces back to the campaign start line. The Allies managed to pushed him back.
This post was edited on 2/16/26 at 9:13 am
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