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re: What are people living on?
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:41 pm to fallguy_1978
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:41 pm to fallguy_1978
1.5% of workers making min wage or less. That's a lost argument.
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Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:43 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:Maybe
What is a living wage in most of the country - 40-50k? What about the people who work a much more difficult job than the fry station making 55k? Do they need 75 now?
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:45 pm to Korkstand
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You asked a question which cannot be answered without more information. You think you are the logical one here?
You made a blanket statement about not being able to afford food and housing. So it's up to you to provide the evidence of where you cannot afford food and housing based on local full time wages.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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1.5% of workers making min wage or less. That's a lost argument.
If you are an adult making minimum wage you should be thankful you are employed.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Then we aren't talking about those people.
Most employees do make enough to afford what they need.
quote:So you acknowledge that these jobs need to be done, but that the people doing them don't deserve to afford to live? And that taxpayers should subsidize these businesses via entitlements?
You're talking about min wage and low wage jobs. If you popped that up to a true "living wage" prices would go insane, particularly in service sectors which are labor inensive.
There's a better way to make a living wage. Improve your skills, knowledge or longevity. That's how people have done it for centuries.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:48 pm to Korkstand
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So you acknowledge that these jobs need to be done
As wages rise, they're being done via drive through window and kiosk. Counter jobs are going away.
Bernie bros only understand chants and phrases.
This post was edited on 4/3/22 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:50 pm to Centinel
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What is this number? Be specific.
name all of the variables, by every possible location. Be specific.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:52 pm to Hangit
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name all of the variables, by every possible location. Be specific.
He's the one who said we should pay people a living wage. That's up to him baw.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:52 pm to fallguy_1978
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If you are an adult making minimum wage you should be thankful you are employed.
Most are under the age of 25. Its impossible to stay at min wage if you work somewhere a year and are punctual. Hell,at BK youre usually a shift manager within a year.
This post was edited on 4/3/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:53 pm to Korkstand
If you raised the minimum wage to 40k all other wages (and prices) would adjust accordingly and that would be the new $8/hr. There will always be low skilled labor/employees that can't afford to take care of their own needs.
This post was edited on 4/3/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its impossible to stay at min wage if you work somewhere a year and are punctual.
Then how do I have time to eat my chickie tendies cooked up by my wife's boyfriend that he bought me for getting my third booster?
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:54 pm to Centinel
quote:You can go literally anywhere and find people working full time and receiving govt assistance.
You made a blanket statement about not being able to afford food and housing. So it's up to you to provide the evidence of where you cannot afford food and housing based on local full time wages.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:57 pm to Korkstand
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You can go literally anywhere and find people working full time and receiving govt assistance.
Because, prices.
Which increase, which causes less low wage employment, which causes more hardship on the poor and even more government assistance, which causes prices to rise,,rinse abd repeat
Feeding the machine doesn't make it quit.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:01 pm to Korkstand
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You can go literally anywhere and find people working full time and receiving govt assistance.
What part of "local full time wages" did you not comprehend?
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:05 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:I wasn't suggesting raising the minimum wage, or even saying there should be a federal minimum wage at all.
If you raised the minimum wage to 40k
quote:Is it your claim that capitalism cannot meet the needs of all participants, and that government must intervene in order for everyone to survive in this system?
all other wages (and prices) would adjust accordingly and that would be the new $8/hr. There will always be low skilled labor/employees that can't afford to take care of their own needs.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:07 pm to Centinel
quote:What part of "local full time wages" is supposed to be meaningful here?
What part of "local full time wages" did you not comprehend?
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:12 pm to PassingThrough
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Corporations threw loyalty and benefits out the door when the could, and now they are paying for it on the back end, and as you said, the regular employees are questioning what their loyalty has gotten them.
This is true. My dad retired from Albemarle. His health forced him to retire, but when he was getting sick they took really good care of him. I was just a teenager and I remember thinking that companies really take care of their employees.
One day years ago talking with an uncle who retired from Dow and we got to talking about retirement and benefits he had with his job and it really is like there was a point when companies just said "frick our employees, if they don't like what we offer, we will find someone else to replace them".
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:18 pm to armsdealer
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That is a big issue that corporations havent solved.
The workforce has turned into mercenaries.
No, they know the solution, they don't want to implement it. If corporations showed some loyalty they would pay their current employees a wage competitive enough to make them not want to leave for contract jobs. They won't do this because they keep telling themselves it is temporary and that contract labor is cheaper over the long run. I don't think this is temporary and the smart move would be to pay your staff employees more. They simply don't want that rate hike on the books so they will pay someone 3X the amount on a contract PLUS the 20-33% the staffing company charges.
The fact is companies are still making money paying the extremely high wages, they can afford to pay more to their staff.
It is also ridiculous what a nurse makes. In BR your Costco cashier and uber driver make more than a Nurse working on staff at a hospital.
I disagree.
Businesses are paying the mercenaries because they arent subject to all of the labor mandates for employees.
The "contractor" solution is a bandaid because the cost of real employment is so bloated with all of the government mandates.
The unforseen side effect has been that the contractor jobs appear more attractive than being an employee. And the employees sitting right beside them are leaving for those contractor opportunities (compounding the labor problem).
Companies are paying more for things because they are raising prices (you act like you havent noticed).
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Early Curly, who believes economics is not a science must still be banned 
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:26 pm to Korkstand
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Why should the rest of us have to subsidize Burger King by paying the rest of their employees' wages?
You mean via government programs?
C'mon.
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If they can't make money paying living wages, then it's a failed business model.
bullshite. This is a circular argument with no end, b/c higher wages will cause inflation in other wages which will cause inflation....and will require...higher wages.
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