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re: Why don't parents hit their kids anymore?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:55 pm to CunningLinguist
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:55 pm to CunningLinguist
Portland. Parents who don't hit their kids have their kids end up in Portland.
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:56 pm to LSUCOCK
I think that parents today mostly suck.. this Facebook generation of ‘adults’ raising kids who, in their own eyes, can do no wrong, is trash
I see it time and time again. My own friends think that their little shithead kids are perfect little angels. They have no fear of consequences. They have no shred of discipline or respect. All of their kids, from ages 3-14 have no clue how to say yes sir, no sir, thank you, etc
It’s mind blowing
My children may never be the smartest, the best athletes, funniest, etc, but you can damn sure bet that they’re respectful to adults and people of authority
I see it time and time again. My own friends think that their little shithead kids are perfect little angels. They have no fear of consequences. They have no shred of discipline or respect. All of their kids, from ages 3-14 have no clue how to say yes sir, no sir, thank you, etc
It’s mind blowing
My children may never be the smartest, the best athletes, funniest, etc, but you can damn sure bet that they’re respectful to adults and people of authority
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:01 pm to LSUCOCK
if you whip a pitbull, is it more likely to eat a child?
If you whip a collie, is it more likely to each a child?
Maybe it has nothing to do with whipping
If you whip a collie, is it more likely to each a child?
Maybe it has nothing to do with whipping
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:05 pm to The Third Leg
quote:
Hitting kids doesn’t do anything positive
Pussy. You are part of the problem that has overtaken this nation. I’m almost glad I’m almost dead.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:07 pm to LSUCOCK
My dad spanked and hit me with the belt as a kid when I misbehaved, which was all the time. And my dad was not a big guy at all. I absolutely hated him when he did it, but I respected the hell out of him for it. Gave me the right amount of discipline when I needed it. If he didn't, not sure how bad I'd turn out to be.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:08 pm to LSUCOCK
quote:
Why don't parents hit their kids anymore?
Tell me you’re trashy without saying you’re trashy
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:11 pm to p0845330
quote:Adjusting our behavior based on data and evidence is the problem eh?quote:Pussy. You are part of the problem that has overtaken this nation. I’m almost glad I’m almost dead.
Hitting kids doesn’t do anything positive
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:14 pm to LSUCOCK
When I was growing up I got my share of spankings and the belt. Parents acted differently in the 50s and early 60s. I turned out OK.
My son was born in 1982 and I never raised a hand to him other than a tap on the butt when he was wearing Huggies. He did have his share of time-outs as he grew up. He turned out better then I did and is an excellent father of two little girls.
My son was born in 1982 and I never raised a hand to him other than a tap on the butt when he was wearing Huggies. He did have his share of time-outs as he grew up. He turned out better then I did and is an excellent father of two little girls.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:15 pm to TheRouxGuru
It seems to me that there are three kinds of parents nowadays:
1. The gen x parent: we were basically on our own at our age, so I don't know, let the kid figure it out... These parents basically let their kids do whatever in their online worlds and don't really pay that much attention to their kids. Granted, they're also probably working all the time, and live in a dual income household or maybe shuttling the kid back and forth with a co-parenting ex, so time is already at a premium. They don't even know if the kid is misbehaving because they're not around to see it. This causes them to increasingly act out for attention because gen-x parents assume everything is okay until something shocks them into noticing that it isn't.
These kids have a tendency to develop some abandonment and rage issues and seek to fill the void with substance abuse. Or, because they need attention and affirmation, become addicted to social media, replacing the missing attention from parents with the upvotes and heart reacts of strangers. Their suicide attempts are usually cries for attention, hoping that someone will rush in and save them and notice how much they've been struggling.
2. The helicopter parent: my child is an innocent angel and you WILL apologize to my child for its bad behavior!!! This parent sees its child as perfect, but fragile. They seek to protect their child from every possible adversity and shield it from any and all criticism. These parents subscribe to the model that self-esteem is key, and anything that could harm self-esteem, like consequences of actions, should be eliminated.
These kids often grow up to be sociopaths and have crippling anxiety once they have to sink or swim on their own. They expect someone to bail them out because their parents always did. They don't know how to handle adversity because they never learned from any of their failures, and thus never learned how to bounce back from defeat. Their suicide attempts are because they simply don't know how to cope with failure nor do they understand how one comes back from it. They don't understand that failure is something that happens constantly and is an opportunity to learn and grow. Instead, they see it as shattering to their worldview and crippling to their future.
3. The pretty much completely not there parent: These kids are usually born into broken homes, often to irresponsible parents who aren't raising the child either. These kids a lot of time are actually raised by a grandparent or uncle. Since no one's really raising the kid, no one is watching them. There are no consequences for anything they do. No one cares if they go to school, do their homework, or talk back. There's literally no one watching.
These kids tend to end up getting involved in crime if they don't find a meaningful school club or activity (which is made much more difficult if there isn't a family member willing to facilitate getting them to/from said activity). These kids have a need for a group to find identity. Their suicide attempts come from being rejected by a group or from battlefield PTSD (a lot of these kids go into the military after high school), but they don't tend to commit suicide purposely nearly as often as the above two groups. No, these kids tend to die from homicide or accidental drug overdoses, as the gang life is quite fraught with danger. These kids learn very early on that violence is the only way to solve problems because they rarely have any positive role models who they see solving problems any other way.
1. The gen x parent: we were basically on our own at our age, so I don't know, let the kid figure it out... These parents basically let their kids do whatever in their online worlds and don't really pay that much attention to their kids. Granted, they're also probably working all the time, and live in a dual income household or maybe shuttling the kid back and forth with a co-parenting ex, so time is already at a premium. They don't even know if the kid is misbehaving because they're not around to see it. This causes them to increasingly act out for attention because gen-x parents assume everything is okay until something shocks them into noticing that it isn't.
These kids have a tendency to develop some abandonment and rage issues and seek to fill the void with substance abuse. Or, because they need attention and affirmation, become addicted to social media, replacing the missing attention from parents with the upvotes and heart reacts of strangers. Their suicide attempts are usually cries for attention, hoping that someone will rush in and save them and notice how much they've been struggling.
2. The helicopter parent: my child is an innocent angel and you WILL apologize to my child for its bad behavior!!! This parent sees its child as perfect, but fragile. They seek to protect their child from every possible adversity and shield it from any and all criticism. These parents subscribe to the model that self-esteem is key, and anything that could harm self-esteem, like consequences of actions, should be eliminated.
These kids often grow up to be sociopaths and have crippling anxiety once they have to sink or swim on their own. They expect someone to bail them out because their parents always did. They don't know how to handle adversity because they never learned from any of their failures, and thus never learned how to bounce back from defeat. Their suicide attempts are because they simply don't know how to cope with failure nor do they understand how one comes back from it. They don't understand that failure is something that happens constantly and is an opportunity to learn and grow. Instead, they see it as shattering to their worldview and crippling to their future.
3. The pretty much completely not there parent: These kids are usually born into broken homes, often to irresponsible parents who aren't raising the child either. These kids a lot of time are actually raised by a grandparent or uncle. Since no one's really raising the kid, no one is watching them. There are no consequences for anything they do. No one cares if they go to school, do their homework, or talk back. There's literally no one watching.
These kids tend to end up getting involved in crime if they don't find a meaningful school club or activity (which is made much more difficult if there isn't a family member willing to facilitate getting them to/from said activity). These kids have a need for a group to find identity. Their suicide attempts come from being rejected by a group or from battlefield PTSD (a lot of these kids go into the military after high school), but they don't tend to commit suicide purposely nearly as often as the above two groups. No, these kids tend to die from homicide or accidental drug overdoses, as the gang life is quite fraught with danger. These kids learn very early on that violence is the only way to solve problems because they rarely have any positive role models who they see solving problems any other way.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:15 pm to LSUCOCK
My two boys are wired different. They both very rarely get out of line but when they do I found getting them to write the alphabet, at a young age, or telling them to research and write about a subject, as preteens, was best. Spanking only added to the hysteria.
My 3 girls…whole ‘nother story. My middle one is 9 but gets swole up like she wants to throw punches when I pop her. My oldest is about a hard headed as they come and when she was little you could spank her til she bled and she still wouldn’t say sorry. And my 2 year old…well she’s just adorable so she doesn’t do any wrong. Yet. In fact I have to leave the room when she gets medicine because she drops that little lip and it kills me.
But to the OP, all 5 of mine know damn good and well how to act and wouldn’t misbehave in public - generally speaking.
My 3 girls…whole ‘nother story. My middle one is 9 but gets swole up like she wants to throw punches when I pop her. My oldest is about a hard headed as they come and when she was little you could spank her til she bled and she still wouldn’t say sorry. And my 2 year old…well she’s just adorable so she doesn’t do any wrong. Yet. In fact I have to leave the room when she gets medicine because she drops that little lip and it kills me.
But to the OP, all 5 of mine know damn good and well how to act and wouldn’t misbehave in public - generally speaking.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:20 pm to The Third Leg
quote:
Hitting kids doesn’t do anything positive, I truly believe that. If you need to hit a kid, they’ve already won. A kid can be easily controlled with other means. Those parents on your flight just have no control over their kid and the kid doesn’t respect them. My brother’s kid runs their house too, it is painful to watch.
Yeah, not true. I was spanked as a kid and respect the hell out of my parents.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:25 pm to Herschal
quote:Two things it instils. Fear and discipline. A kid should fear their parents response to bad actions. That ultimately gives the kid a lifelong discipline to practice self control. It all starts at home. Actions have consequences, unfortunately we are getting far away from that as a society. I'm not a very religious guy, but I 100% the Bible is full of sound advice, including "A rod and a reprimand impart wisdom" (Proverbs 29:15a).
I was spanked as a child and I’m a better man for it.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:28 pm to TCO
quote:
Tell me you’re trashy without saying you’re trashy
Tell me you're a pusy without telling me you're a pusssssssy
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:29 pm to Gings5
quote:Do you believe that you respect them because you were spanked?
Yeah, not true. I was spanked as a kid and respect the hell out of my parents.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:30 pm to LSUCOCK
quote:Do you feel like a big man when you hit a kid?
Tell me you're a pusy without telling me you're a pusssssssy
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:33 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Adjusting our behavior based on data and evidence is the problem eh?
Typically, no, but with regards to social sciences? Well, sometimes. See, social sciences are very difficult to objectively measure. Humans are incredibly complex as are their behaviors. There are simply so many variables and co-acting causes that one can think they’re testing for one thing when actually tracking a very different trend entirely. It’s one of the reasons why the results of social science studies are often incredibly difficult to replicate.
If one is adjusting their behavior based on well-gathered, peer-reviewed, and results repeatable data, that might be a wise choice. However, if poor control groups, mad data acquisition (especially voluntary surveys which people frequently lie on), and unrepeatable results create unreliable data, then that data should not be used.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:33 pm to kingbob
quote:
It seems to me that there are three kinds of parents nowadays: 1. The gen x parent: we were basically on our own at our age, so I don't know, let the kid figure it out... These parents basically let their kids do whatever in their online worlds and don't really pay that much attention to their kids. Granted, they're also probably working all the time, and live in a dual income household or maybe shuttling the kid back and forth with a co-parenting ex, so time is already at a premium. They don't even know if the kid is misbehaving because they're not around to see it. This causes them to increasingly act out for attention because gen-x parents assume everything is okay until something shocks them into noticing that it isn't. These kids have a tendency to develop some abandonment and rage issues and seek to fill the void with substance abuse. Their suicide attempts are usually cries for attention, hoping that someone will rush in and save them and notice how much they've been struggling. 2. The helicopter parent: my child is an innocent angel and you WILL apologize to my child for its bad behavior!!! This parent sees its child as perfect, but fragile. They seek to protect their child from every possible adversity and shield it from any and all criticism. These parents subscribe to the model that self-esteem is key, and anything that could harm self-esteem, like consequences of actions, should be eliminated. These kids often grow up to be sociopaths and have crippling anxiety once they have to sink or swim on their own. They expect someone to bail them out because their parents always did. They don't know how to handle adversity because they never learned from any of their failures, and thus never learned how to bounce back from defeat. Their suicide attempts are because they simply don't know how to cope with failure nor do they understand how one comes back from it. They don't understand that failure is something that happens constantly and is an opportunity to learn and grow. Instead, they see it as shattering to their worldview and crippling to their future. 3. The pretty much completely not there parent: These kids are usually born into broken homes, often to irresponsible parents who aren't raising the child either. These kids a lot of time are actually raised by a grandparent or uncle. Since no one's really raising the kid, no one is watching them. There are no consequences for anything they do. No one cares if they go to school, do their homework, or talk back. There's literally no one watching. These kids tend to end up getting involved in crime if they don't find a meaningful school club or activity (which is made much more difficult if there isn't a family member willing to facilitate getting them to/from said activity). These kids have a need for a group to find identity. Their suicide attempts come from being rejected by a group or from battlefield PTSD (a lot of these kids go into the military after high school), but they don't tend to commit suicide purposely nearly as often as the above two groups. No, these kids tend to die from homicide or accidental drug overdoses, as the gang life is quite fraught with danger. These kids learn very early on that violence is the only way to solve problems because they rarely have any positive role models who they see solving problems any other way.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:34 pm to LSUCOCK
IDK, but I know I used to go into stores knowing to not ask for anything and to act right because I was scared my mom would have embarrassed the shite out of me by slapping me in public.. And she would have and not thought twice about it. Because she did it once.
It seems like kids do a lot of things today that we knew not to do because shite would have gotten real.
Anyone's parents used to get pissed if they ask if someone could come sleep over in front of that person?
It seems like kids do a lot of things today that we knew not to do because shite would have gotten real.
Anyone's parents used to get pissed if they ask if someone could come sleep over in front of that person?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:36 pm to OweO
quote:no shite but you voted for biden so you are all for the pussies taking over idk why you act like it bothers you
It seems like kids do a lot of things today that we knew not to do because shite would have gotten real.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:36 pm to mattytiger123
quote:
the kids at my MS and HS who were hit by their parents into adolescence all went off their rocker and have damaged relationships with their parents.
Because they were pandered to by some libtard, overly emotional, pussy teacher who coddled them. If they had gotten disciplined without outside interference, they’d be fine. Don’t believe me? Look at all the kids who got the living frick beat out of them prior to all this emotional pandering. The overwhelming majority moved on.
Their damaged relationships are a product of outside influences, not their parents actions.
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