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re: Will Smith slaps Chris Rock at Oscars
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:41 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:41 am to OMLandshark
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Have you ever listened to an interview with him or his family? Anyone being shocked at Will Smith being petty and unreasonable has never listened to him talk.
I will say this is a great point. I have seen interviews, and recent ones. They are batshit and out of touch for sure.
Even lends more to the fact his crazy arse would do something like this, IMO
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:42 am to musick
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If it were staged what are the proper "reactions?" a bunch of actors and actresses should have done?
you have your mind set on the conspiracy staged idea but chris rock's reaction to me says it all, as well as the overall timing of when this happened and will smith being consoled by others afterwards. I think this guy's life is a mess and when his wife who's been banging dudes gave him THE Look, he started making his way up on stage to do something about the joke being made.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:42 am to musick
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they just kicked Kanye off Grammys for mean/threatening tweets but the same industry just allowed a man who moments earlier assaulted another man receive the best award of the night) for King Richard
Because Kanye is seen as Right wing palling around with Trump and Candace Owens.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:42 am to nvasil1
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Will Smith apparently pre-planned this whole thing on his own to look like a tough guy since he's insecure about being a cuck.
Read this and truthfully tell me it's not in the realm of possibility. Throw in Chris Rock being on stage, creating the perfect storm (smaller man, someone he "hates")
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:43 am to Klark Kent
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where you at on this LCA?
Orchestrated... As much as we like to think these award programs are off the cuff, especially when they are live, I think very little happens that is not planned. Chris Rock showed no surprise at all when Will Smith popped up and started walking towards him. Didn't even take half a step back.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:44 am to musick
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in the realm of possibility.
if simply being "in the realm of possibility" is your standard, then no wonder you haven't given this thread up
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:45 am to musick
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Have you ever listened to an interview with him or his family? Anyone being shocked at Will Smith being petty and unreasonable has never listened to him talk.
I will say this is a great point. I have seen interviews, and recent ones. They are batshit and out of touch for sure.
Even lends more to the fact his crazy arse would do something like this, IMO
You're almost teetering on distinction without a difference territory here, it seems.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:45 am to LCA131
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Orchestrated... As much as we like to think these award programs are off the cuff, especially when they are live, I think very little happens that is not planned. Chris Rock showed no surprise at all when Will Smith popped up and started walking towards him. Didn't even take half a step back.
Is your heart racing just a little bit right now?
I'm concerned for you.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:46 am to Big EZ Tiger
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So he did ok a bald joke at the expense of his wife for this whole publicity stunt? It would involve at least Chris Rock and Will Smith. I'm not sure what Chris Rock (a guy who is famous enough to be the host of The Oscars again) would have to gain from agreeing to the bit. And Will Smith has been a star for a long time and was nominated already for an Oscar, so it's not like he needed to drum up more publicity for himself.
As I said before, anything is possible in weird Hollywood, but I'm not seeing the payoff here for those two if it was staged.
For Rock it is a bit he can glean material/publicity from for the rest of his career. For Smith, he is seen as a "tough guy" and protector of women from misogynistic statements. Remember, he is defending a woman on a night where there were 3 female host. And women LOVE to play the role of both strong hero and helpless victim. Smith also gets to change his perception as just a "happy go lucky" nice guy.
Was it a real, spontaneous event? I guess it could have been. But there are many reasons to believe it wasn't. First, the Oscar's ratings have been terrible and declining significantly over the last several years. Without this event last night's show would have gotten a little bit of pub today, but would have been forgotten in less than a week. However, the show is now the most talked about thing in America right now. Make no mistake, the Academy is THRILLED about the publicity it is receiving today.
Second, the majority of the people in the room, including the "combatants" are ALL highly paid and (mostly) very talent actors. So it would not be all that difficult for them to portray this as authentic. Hell, Andy Kauffman and a pro wrestler had people convinced they really got into a fight on TV.
Three, the "punch" was pathetic. You're telling me that you (Smith) are mad enough to spontaneously walk on stage, in front of the most powerful people in your industry, during a live event broadcast all over the world, to fight another man, and all you do this throw some half-assed slap? bullshite. Once you have crossed the Rubicon there is no sudden restraint. Has anyone on here ever been in a fight? Once you are to the point where you are mad enough to hit another man you are not pulling back at the last second to just slap him. You are trying to knock that MFer out. Otherwise, why even get into the fight?
IMO, this is Hollywood at its most pathetic. A not so insignificant portion of the population (consumers) is turning them out and they are desperate for attention. The industry doesn't survive without attention. And the film industries "biggest night of the year" was getting less and less of it.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Rock didn't go off the cuff, the lines were scripted
He would have had a better comeback if it were scripted.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:47 am to monsterballads
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you have your mind set on the conspiracy staged idea but chris rock's reaction to me says it all, as well as the overall timing of when this happened and will smith being consoled by others afterwards. I think this guy's life is a mess and when his wife who's been banging dudes gave him THE Look, he started making his way up on stage to do something about the joke being made.
I don't have my mind set. If you know me I never take anything presented to me as truth. I always question everything, and especially when authorities or the media is involved.
The reaction I'm getting just by claiming it's "probably" faked is pretty telling. People are just endlessly calling me out for it. All I'm doing is looking at the other side of this.
So some actors might have staged a fake fight for publicity.
Is that batshit a crazy theory in 2022 after everything we've seen in the last few years with the government and media outright lying to our faces for years?
As for Rock's reaction, he may have not been in on it.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 11:47 am
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:47 am to LCA131
quote:He seemed surprised that he was walking up, but he had no reason to believe that Will Smith would actually assault him on stage at the fricking Oscars. It came across as a bit until it didn't.
Orchestrated... As much as we like to think these award programs are off the cuff, especially when they are live, I think very little happens that is not planned. Chris Rock showed no surprise at all when Will Smith popped up and started walking towards him. Didn't even take half a step back.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:47 am to monsterballads
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the censors stepping in and blanking out all dialogue was certainly strange. I thought i had lost sound on my TV
FCC doing work. Notice all the foreign feeds got the full dose.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:48 am to Alt26
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Remember, he is defending a woman on a night where there were 3 female host.
Not only that but his Oscar win AND acceptance speech were both based on "protecting women"
The fact so many people bought right into it and are defending it as real is concerning.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 11:49 am
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:49 am to musick
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Then why is Will sitting there belly laughing at Rock's jokes (including the stupid GI Jane joke)?
Have you ever seen a Roast? Do you think at Trump’s Roast back in the day that Mike “The Situation” had a good time despite getting destroyed and laughing alongside? It’s about saving your own dignity, dude, it’s just Will almost immediately came to the conclusion he needs to do even more than that and bitchslap Chris Rock.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:49 am to nvasil1
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Didn't you hear? The goalposts have been moved so the telecast was not actually involved.
Instead, it's not real because Will Smith apparently pre-planned this whole thing on his own to look like a tough guy since he's insecure about being a cuck
Yeah, if the new theory is that is was all staged but Will Smith was the only one in on it (so...not staged?) then LNCHBOX and crew can officially claim victory and we can close this thread.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:49 am to LNCHBOX
a timeline of beef:
they've known each other for well over 30 years and from what i'm reading they aren't exactly "friends".
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(CNN)Sunday night wasn't the first time Chris Rock had joked about Jada Pinkett Smith, but it may have been his last.
Her husband, Will Smith, stormed on stage at the 94th Academy Awards after Rock joked "Jada I love you, 'G.I. Jane 2,' can't wait to see it" and hit Rock in the face.
Actress Demi Moore famously shaved her head for her role in the film "G.I. Jane" and Pinkett Smith has a close haircut because she suffers from alopecia, an autoimmune disorder that causes hair loss.
In 2016, Rock hosted the Oscars and joked about Pinkett Smith and her husband boycotting over #OscarsSoWhite, the online movement which began as a way to address the lack of diversity at the Academy Awards.
Rock declared that the Smiths, as well as Black director Spike Lee "went mad" over the issue as there were no Black acting nominees that year.
"Jada boycotting the Oscars is like me boycotting Rihanna's panties," Rock said during his opening monologue. "I wasn't invited."
Rock went on to joke that he understood Pinkett Smith's anger.
"Jada's mad her man Will was not nominated for 'Concussion.'" Rock said in reference to the 2015 football film Will Smith starred in. "I get it. It's not fair that Will was this good and didn't get nominated. It's also not fair that Will was paid $20 million for [the 1999 film] 'Wild Wild West.'"
Pinkett Smith commented on the jokes days later when asked about them by paparazzi.
"Hey look, it comes with the territory, we gotta keep it moving," she said. "We got a lot of stuff we gotta handle, a lot of stuff going on in our world right now. We gotta keep it moving."
E! reported that Smith, who was filming "Collateral Beauty" in New York City at the time, simply smiled and flashed a peace sign when asked.
Smith and Rock's relationship goes back to the 1990s. Rock guest starred on Smith's hit series "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" where he played a character named Maurice and Maurice's sister Jasmine.
In 2018 Smith posted a birthday tribute on his verified Instagram account to his ex-wife Sheree Zampino, who is the mother of his adult son Trey.
"Happy Bday, @shereezampino. #BestBabyMamaEver! :-) I Love You, Ree-Ree," the caption read.
Rock left a comment saying, "Wow. You have a very understanding wife," according to E! to which Zampino responded, "Don't hate."
they've known each other for well over 30 years and from what i'm reading they aren't exactly "friends".
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:49 am to Festus
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Is your heart racing just a little bit right now?
Yeah...a little. But it's just because you responded to my post.
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I'm concerned for you.
Thank you, but I'm all right.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:50 am to OMLandshark
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It’s about saving your own dignity, dude, it’s just Will almost immediately came to the conclusion he needs to do even more than that and bitchslap Chris Rock.
Do you really think storming up on stage and slapping Chris Rock like a girl saved Will Smith's dignity?
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