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re: Worlds largest chipmaker will move operations to Arizona
Posted on 12/15/24 at 11:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/15/24 at 11:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I guess we just have accepted corporate welfare as necessary
You're right. Better to not have all those jobs here. Nor all the chips so many of our industries use. Better to stay dependent on foreign manufacturing.
Even considering all the ancillary support industries for these plants. Totally not worth it.
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Posted on 12/15/24 at 11:56 am to BuckyCheese
Lololol at all the hypocrites who complain about not being able to compete with China because they subsidize their industries.
The CHIPS act grants are one time payouts for plants that will be making chips for decades. It lessens our dependence on foreign made chips, which was one of the main bottlenecks during the pandemic.
The shortsightedness of many here is fully expected.
The CHIPS act grants are one time payouts for plants that will be making chips for decades. It lessens our dependence on foreign made chips, which was one of the main bottlenecks during the pandemic.
The shortsightedness of many here is fully expected.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 11:59 am to Sayre
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You're right. Better to not have all those jobs here
Then why not nationalize industry? You dont even need demand, just keep creating jobs. Make all of us government employees!
These corporations living off welfare will split the minute subsidies end.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 12/15/24 at 12:04 pm to bad93ex
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So they also announced this under Trump but now Biden gets credit for them building a second plant?
Yes. That's how it works.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 12:05 pm to nycguy
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Because Im not going to argue with someone who knows jack about all we've had to done to ensure chips are built here, TSMC, ASML, NVIDIA and AMD will build chips here because we've made that possible, stuff we weren't doing 2016-2020.
Clearly you have no idea since TSMC produces Nvidia and AMD's most advanced chips since they don't have their own foundry.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 12:10 pm to bad93ex
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So they also announced this under Trump but now Biden gets credit for them building a second plant?
Not really. The plan was paused until Trump won.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 12:17 pm to nycguy
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Joe Biden’s AI chip ambitions
Joe Biden has no idea what AI or chips or ambitions are
Posted on 12/15/24 at 12:29 pm to nycguy
10% to the Big Guy ain’t a bad haul on his way out the door. Next stop, hell.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 12:34 pm to loogaroo
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Not really. The plan was paused until Trump won
Some people will actually believe this ignorance.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 12:42 pm to Sayre
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The shortsightedness of many here is fully expected.
Apparently you are one of those that sucks off the government tit.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:05 pm to BuckyCheese
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Apparently you are one of those that sucks off the government tit
Apparently you're one of the poli board retard idiot scum that escaped the reservation.
Go ahead, hate on your countries success some more. Rage on, loser
If this has happened while Trump was in office you'd be over the moon and raging against anyone who questioned it. Sad!
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:09 pm to Sayre
whats the verdict on if Trump is going to keep this going or not? is Phoenix still going to be a booming chip manufacturing city in the future?
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:16 pm to Sayre
Yeah, I'm over the target judging by your response.
btw-Your Trump comment is so far off base it's hilarious.
There are other ways to induce companies that want access to their largest market than giving them billions of dollars.
btw-Your Trump comment is so far off base it's hilarious.
There are other ways to induce companies that want access to their largest market than giving them billions of dollars.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:28 pm to Tigeralum2008
Quality of life.
infrastructure.
Excellent public education.
Room to develop.
Not California.
infrastructure.
Excellent public education.
Room to develop.
Not California.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:31 pm to BuckyCheese
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Yeah, I'm over the target judging by your response.
You wouldn't know the target if it hit you in the face.
That's just how little I respect poli board posters.
What you know about the semiconductor industry couldn't fit on the head of a pin.
You'd rather all that industry stay offshore and make us susceptible to any whim.
You hate the US and American workers and consumers. I get that
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:33 pm to nycguy
Link?
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:50 pm to nycguy
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The subsidies fall under the Chips Act, which was passed in 2022
Not sure if Arizona was part of Chips Act or an extension of existing push under Trump, but much of the spending in 2022 Chips Act went towards typical Dem projects
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The law could potentially invest $67 billion in accelerating advanced zero-emissions technologies
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and $20 billion in the new Directorate for Technology, Innovation, and Partnerships, which would be tasked with deploying the above technologies as well as promoting social and ethical considerations
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It contains annual DOE budget increases for other purposes including supercomputer, nuclear fusion and particle accelerator research as well as minority-serving institution outreach and workforce development for teachers, and directs the DOC to establish $10 billion worth of research hubs in post-industrial rural and urban communities that have been subjected to historical underinvestment.
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the law authorizes $2.8 billion for standalone education projects, creates a Chief Diversity Officer position and codifies the Eddie Bernice Johnson INCLUDES Network to serve as the NSF's main diversity, equity, and inclusion program.
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The law expands NSF demographic data collection and workplace inclusion efforts, and help to grantees in caregiver roles and the fight against sexual harassment
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The NSF shall submit to Congress and the National Science Board the results of an assessment of the feasibility and benefits of incorporating new questions or topic modules into existing National Center for Science and Engineering Statistics surveys on
*the skilled technical workforce,
*working conditions and work life balance,
*harassment and discrimination, and
*immigration and emigration.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:52 pm to Sayre
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This is still going as well thanks to the CHIPS act. Too bad Trump wants to do away with it.
Obviously you either haven’t read or completely support all the DEI and environmental spending aspects of this law.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:53 pm to Sayre
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You'd rather all that industry stay offshore and make us susceptible to any whim.
You hate the US and American workers and consumers. I get that
Keep raging smoothbrain. I'm the exact opposite of what you claim.
What I do hate is people that live off government largess. Both personal and corporate.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:54 pm to Sayre
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You hate the US and American workers and consumers. I get that
Protectionism hurts consumers, subsidies to massive corporations crush small business.
This is backwards.
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