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Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:55 pm to dgnx6
Mandatory national guard, I could get behind that.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:59 pm to justaniceguy
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Hitler was never trying to cleanse the world. Germany didn’t even have a navy. Our WW2 vets were sold a bucket of lies. At some point the reason we fought went from protecting the world from hitler (who was never gonna take the world over) to going in there to save the Jews from hitler. If our WW2 vets knew that they probably would have tried to avoid service too lol.
So Hitler didn't join forces with Japan who had a strong Navy and declare war on the US as soon as they hit Pearl Harbor?
Also, the "Hitler wasn't all that bad" argument is a weird hill to die on.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:00 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Hitler was terrible, but we were sold a bucket of lies to take our country from isolationist to policing the world, and it never stopped. We have been fighting non stop wars ever since
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:01 pm to justaniceguy
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Germany didn’t even have a navy
I guess all those U-Boats and the Bismarck were just figments then.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:01 pm to Thundercles
No. The people on here boasting that the younger generations need to be conscripted are the same ones who would keep their kids and grandkids from being sent into battle
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:03 pm to justaniceguy
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we were sold a bucket of lies to take our country from isolationist to policing the world
We weren't sold anything. We were attacked by the Japanese and then Hitler declared war on the US. Were we not supposed to react to these offenses?
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it never stopped. We have been fighting non stop wars ever since
This art is true and has been the real downfall of this country.
But to say that we should have or even could have sat out of WW2 is a dumb revisionist take. We were attacked and forced into the war.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:04 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:04 pm to JasonDBlaha
Bingo.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:05 pm to OKBoomerSooner
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Young people of all persuasions are not going to fight a stupid war for a corrupt shitty government just to satisfy the nostalgia of old people for a country that functionally ceased to exist decades ago.
Well said. Patriotism barely exists in people under 30. The few patriots left are patriotic for a country that no longer even exists. America is far more of an economic construct at this point than a nation.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:07 pm to Zaqwert
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Patriotism barely exists in people under 30. The few patriots left are patriotic for a country that no longer even exists.
I do a lot of stuff with former Vietnam POWs and some AF reserve squadrons, the old dudes haven't given up and the young guys give me some hope
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:09 pm to Zaqwert
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The few patriots left are patriotic for a country that no longer even exists.
This should be the main point people take from this thread. Anybody under 30 who loves America is not going to fight for it in a foreign land unless they are getting benefits from it. Schooling, work, etc.
Now if America were on the defense obviously we would defend it.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:10 pm to Thundercles
PLEASE…… This sissy generation will fold with the first shot
“The only easy day was yesterday”
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:11 pm to justaniceguy
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. Anybody under 30 who loves America is not going to fight for it in a foreign land unless they are getting benefits from it. Schooling, work, etc.
uh, Cruiser, there ain't no draft anymore, and I think that's the deal now if you enlist
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:12 pm to Zaqwert
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Patriotism barely exists in people under 30.
Get off the internet and go meet some real people boomer. There’s still plenty of patriots out there.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:14 pm to Thundercles
I already fund a worthless government, I sure as hell am not going to fight for it. This country is beyond saving, they've made certain of that.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:15 pm to 777Tiger
Which is my point in a thread that is talking about what if there was a draft today….
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:15 pm to TubaDawg
It is, anybody who disagrees is in denial at this point.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:17 pm to justaniceguy
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Which is my point in a thread that is talking about what if there was a draft today….
the conscriptees of the Vietnam war resulted in a composite of the most educated military force in our history, a lot of the volunteers over the last gen did it because they had no other options
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:17 pm to Thundercles
If the South is attacked, sure let’s fight. If CA, NY or another piece of shite blue state, they can go frick themselves.
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