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Posted on 1/29/18 at 2:45 pm to LSUAlum2001
OMG that's terrible...
Posted on 1/29/18 at 2:46 pm to bootlegger
Yes, I am a close friends with all them & their families. All 5 had unknowingly stepped into the blind that had been tied down at same 3' it's always been. Not realizing it swollen up to 7 ft the previous day. Essentially one side was full of water but as they each proceeded to walk the horror that they were standing in a closed blind that was submerged on one side as water started rolling to different ends of boat it tilted enough to bring it down with all 5 inside as it flipped completely upside down. JH opened eyes to look for light & reach further in the blind until he felt an arm. He brought them surface by swimming to the light & it was numbing, exhausting fight & he struggled to save both of their lives. They said one more breath & that'd have been it... They reached land right while he debated giving up & sat hopelessly witnessing the their spouses, siblings, son/nephew trapped in the submerged blind.
It was a tragic accident. JH's mom's best friend passed away from a heart attack as she was trying to console her BF after losing her son.
It was a tragic accident. JH's mom's best friend passed away from a heart attack as she was trying to console her BF after losing her son.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 2:52 pm to LSUAngelHere
Damn. Tragic news.
Darrin was my step brother many years back. Are you saying Darrin’s mom passed?
Darrin was my step brother many years back. Are you saying Darrin’s mom passed?
Posted on 1/29/18 at 2:59 pm to LSUAngelHere
Awful and terrifying.
I personally will take away from this accident is that cold water is might as well be lava. And cold water at night increases the danger 2 fold. Sunday morning temp was quite mild so that may have created a bit of false sense of safety. If it were 30* people treat the thought of falling in water with a bit more reverence.
I personally will take away from this accident is that cold water is might as well be lava. And cold water at night increases the danger 2 fold. Sunday morning temp was quite mild so that may have created a bit of false sense of safety. If it were 30* people treat the thought of falling in water with a bit more reverence.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:07 pm to LSUAngelHere
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All 5 had unknowingly stepped into the blind that had been tied down at same 3' it's always been. Not realizing it swollen up to 7 ft the previous day
Now it makes sense, absolutely horrible , and for the one guy to sit and watch exhausted, I can not imagine
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:09 pm to lazcreek
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Are you saying Darrin’s mom passed?
Yes. This morning.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:55 pm to baldona
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The biggest safety issue was likely that those blinds aren't made to escape if they are flipped usually. It could have been very easy and they panicked or had too much gear on, or almost impossible to escape.
That and having an auto bilge pump on board would be nice.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 4:02 pm to LSUintheNW
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That and having an auto bilge pump on board would be nice.
Worthless when tied off 4' below the water line.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 4:05 pm to Chuker
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I personally will take away from this accident is that cold water is might as well be lava. And cold water at night increases the danger 2 fold. Sunday morning temp was quite mild so that may have created a bit of false sense of safety. If it were 30* people treat the thought of falling in water with a bit more reverence.
You should. as I noted in thread on the OT, I've swam a lot in triathlons in cold water. It is a beast. Once your face hits it, your body and brain react involuntarily. We wear wetsuits for the swim and typically spend a little time in the water getting acclimated.
Here, though, no acclimation, no wetsuit, heavy coat, and Jesus Christ darkness. I can't imagine how terrible it was for those kids and adult when they hit the water. Just horrible, they couldn't help themselves or anyone else even if their brain let them think that. Just terrible.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 4:06 pm to Capt ST
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That and having an auto bilge pump on board would be nice.
Worthless when tied off 4' below the water line.
What do you mean?
Posted on 1/29/18 at 4:12 pm to LSUintheNW
pontoons were tied off under water
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 1/29/18 at 4:13 pm to redneck
Can you explain a bit more?
Why are they tied off under water?
Why are they tied off under water?
Posted on 1/29/18 at 4:18 pm to LSUAngelHere
So there were no ropes off if each corner to stabilize the thing?
No one realized a 4' water level increase?
How Is one side full of water and no one realize it was tilting...or how was it not tilting?
I've been hunting damn near daily my entire life, I own boats and a pontoon boat at one point, been in several floating blind type setups and NEVER can I remember any having leak issues without it being overly obvious.
I say this because I am very much not understanding how this scenario played out.
Again, with ropes tied at 3', and the water rising 4' higher to reach 7', how in the hell can it not be noticed?
Help me understand
No one realized a 4' water level increase?
How Is one side full of water and no one realize it was tilting...or how was it not tilting?
I've been hunting damn near daily my entire life, I own boats and a pontoon boat at one point, been in several floating blind type setups and NEVER can I remember any having leak issues without it being overly obvious.
I say this because I am very much not understanding how this scenario played out.
Again, with ropes tied at 3', and the water rising 4' higher to reach 7', how in the hell can it not be noticed?
Help me understand
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 1/29/18 at 4:41 pm to LSUintheNW
quote:
Can you explain a bit more?
Why are they tied off under water?
It's killing me! It's like it's permanently tied off under warer..fine, that means the water level is constant. Now I'm to believe the boat rose 4'with the water level increasing that much overnight?
If the water level is that sensitive, wouldn't it be very necessary to have it tied to rise and lower with the level?
Was this the first day tied there?
Posted on 1/29/18 at 4:45 pm to LSUintheNW
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Can you explain a bit more? Why are they tied off under water?
I don't know any inside info on this, just from what I read here.
But, there was torrential rain across the area on Saturday, the day before the accident, so probably caused the several feet rise in water level and the tie-off point to the pontoon boat to become submerged.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 4:52 pm to the LSUSaint
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Help me understand
You know it was a morning hunt right so they were doing it all at night? Probably tired, I'm sure they realized the water level rise but maybe not the severity? Hard to say.
I didn't understand the sinking thing and filling with water? But I've nose dived a pontoon too many times to count with too many people on them and all th weight in the front. Actually I've only done it once or twice but I've been on them doing that a bunch. We had like 12 full grown men on one scalloping one time for a bachelor trip and filled it with water but I wouldn't say it came close to tipping. They must have either had a heavy arse frame for th blind or maybe the water was rushing and a corner of the pontoon went under causing the water to rush over it? No idea.
It is good to learn how accidents like this happen to help prevent them in the future.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 5:07 pm to choupiquesushi
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Even people that are properly trained to egress in this type of situation - FAIL - cold dark/murky water - it's nearly impossible to even tell which way is up - finding the door/window is even more difficult. Once dunked you don't have much time to analyze where you are, what happened and what to do... even if you practiced it - if you haven't the odds of surviving are astronomically low. PFD can't help you find the exit.
As I just posted on the OT thread, during Navy air crew survival training you know you are going to be flipped upside down and disoriented in a pool of almost warm water, but even knowing what to expect, and watching others do it, there are still some that cannot get out and would drown if not for the safety divers helping them.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 5:23 pm to EA6B
quote:Not to mention it's in daylight, right?
As I just posted on the OT thread, during Navy air crew survival training you know you are going to be flipped upside down and disoriented in a pool of almost warm water, but even knowing what to expect, and watching others do it, there are still some that cannot get out and would drown if not for the safety divers helping them.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 5:25 pm to the LSUSaint
They underestimated the rise in the water level, and being that it was pitch black dark outside, didn't notice the boat being tilted towards one side. You add 1000 lbs to that (all at the same entry point) and i can see things going south pretty quickly.
People make mistakes in judgement. No offense to you, but its easy to sit here and think how impossible this scenario was, but it obviously wasn't at all.
ETA - im completely speculating. Have no knowledge of the actual situation.
People make mistakes in judgement. No offense to you, but its easy to sit here and think how impossible this scenario was, but it obviously wasn't at all.
ETA - im completely speculating. Have no knowledge of the actual situation.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 5:26 pm
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