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Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:05 pm to KemoSabe65
I see Chuck is in Baton Rouge. I may go meet with him also, being a couple of y'all have recommended him as well.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:42 pm to BeerThirty
He's a puppy, that's only 13 weeks old. I've actually been keeping it as of lately. It's off that gator point choppa bloodline like I think most of his pups are. Their puppies have a lot of drive and hunt in them it seems!
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:55 pm to Dylan
Got one from Rodrigues myself. He has that, and lots of energy. But he was a blood trailing fool, and turned into a great duck dog too. Very happy with the bloodline here. He’s bad as hell, but turning into a great chocolate buddy!
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:29 am to Dylan
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there's so many trainers out there these days.
If you really want to see trainers in a real world setting, go to a hunt test or a field trial. Personally, if I was selecting a trainer, I would pick a hunt test in the general area where you live since that will pull the trainers that would be easiest to get to but don't rule out the TX trainers. Personally, I would drive a good ways to drop a dog off if the trainer was good.
Find out where they are running the Finished Tests. Go watch. Most of the guys running Finished are trainers. Hard to miss them anyway with the big dog trailers. There will probably be all the big name trainers at a big hunt test. You can watch them all work really top notch dogs and then you can make a decision from there.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:08 am to Dylan
I don’t know if it been mentioned yet but it may be worth looking at the amite river hrc. They do a lot of group work and have several local trainers involved. Could probably get pointed in the right direction or at least get some FaceTime with several local trainers to see who you’d be a good fit with
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:37 am to Redfish2010
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amite river hrc
I ran my hound in one of their hunt tests a long time ago. The thing is, an individual can buy a puppy with a proven pedigree and then join a local hrc. Unless you are just a mega-douche, you can pick up no telling how much training advice and even training places just by joining and offering to help out every once in a while. That way you don't have to cough up a kidney or a first born to a trainer but still get trainer advice. Sometimes even works out to getting on hunts too.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:48 am to MWP
I got some rocks you can borrow if its just a meat dog
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:56 am to nolaks
I don't know him personally - have only talked with him once or twice on phone but... JD at Boo Yah - I have yet to hear anyone that deals with him have anything negative to say about him.
and for guys doing the HT and just hunting dog thing - that is rare the only other one that comes to mind is Bart Posey.
but I know who to ask about Cory... and I will get back with you.....
and for guys doing the HT and just hunting dog thing - that is rare the only other one that comes to mind is Bart Posey.
but I know who to ask about Cory... and I will get back with you.....
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:00 am to choupiquesushi
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for guys doing the HT and just hunting dog thing
Forgot that the HT and FT crowds are like apples and oranges.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:05 am to choupiquesushi
guys.. field trial and hunt test really should not be used in the same sentence.......
Hunt tests help develop some great hunting dogs and all of the orgs running them are GREAT FOR DOGS and DOG people... but.....
field trials, trial handling and trial training is a whole different animal.....
yes...... a FT dawg can fail a hunt test.....I had it happen..... and a HT dog can indeed win a FT.. in fact I had a meat dog win an amateur stakes.....(years ago).....
ULM also beat alabama......
Hunt tests help develop some great hunting dogs and all of the orgs running them are GREAT FOR DOGS and DOG people... but.....
field trials, trial handling and trial training is a whole different animal.....
yes...... a FT dawg can fail a hunt test.....I had it happen..... and a HT dog can indeed win a FT.. in fact I had a meat dog win an amateur stakes.....(years ago).....
ULM also beat alabama......
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:16 am to MWP
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Forgot that the HT and FT crowds are like apples and oranges.
personal MWP - I disagree very strongly with where FTs have gone since my first one I saw in 1978. Both Retriever and Pointing dog trials. My biggest gripe is amateur stakes and the sheer % of dogs that spend 99% of the time with a pro trainer go to their "owner/handler" 3 days before an event.... imho.. dat ain't an amateur dog.. .yeah... a guy training/handling his OWN dogs ie a true amateur can beat em... but it's rare and then there is patronage to some trainers.... I know one trial I won years ago - where the breed I had made up only 4 of 25 dogs entered - the judges and 21 owners were certainly not happy with who won... and it's a good thing it wasn't close...... and pointing dog FT's have turned into and endurance test for dogs and handlers.. and I could write a long diatribe on this that would bore most of ya'll.....
not as far apart as mountain bikers vs road bikers.... but definitely further apart than travel ball / wreck ball
heck if amateur events were amateur trained dogs only - I might would do that more than I would hunt...... but I dang sure don't want to go have my dog that gets 20 minutes a day with me, wife or son go compete against a dog that gets 2 hours a day with a pro.. Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:18 am to nolaks
quote:till someone reaches in the wrong pocket and throws the truck and boat keys into the water..... I know someone that did that last year......
Anyone have experience with Cory Baudoin training retrievers?
I got some rocks you can borrow if its just a meat dog
it's too easy to teach a dog to handle...Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:19 am to MWP
quote:all of the retriever / bird dawg clubs have great folks always willing to help... HT folks are SIGNIFICANTLY more likely to HELP you simply because - you are not trying to BEAT THEM.....
amite river hrc
I ran my hound in one of their hunt tests a long time ago. The thing is, an individual can buy a puppy with a proven pedigree and then join a local hrc. Unless you are just a mega-douche, you can pick up no telling how much training advice and even training places just by joining and offering to help out every once in a while. That way you don't have to cough up a kidney or a first born to a trainer but still get trainer advice. Sometimes even works out to getting on hunts too.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:23 am to choupiquesushi
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guys.. field trial and hunt test really should not be used in the same sentence.......
You know you replied to yourself....
I think most working class duck hunters relate to the HT crowd. They are the more down to earth help a brother out group. You would actually want to hunt with a HT trainer/dog owner. FT guys are more over the top and the game is much more cut throat. Yes, both trainers on either side of the fence will train a dog to pick up a duck but I just like the HT guys better. To each his own.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:32 am to MWP
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You know you replied to yourself....
yep... when i talk to myself... it's never an argument...
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:50 pm to Dylan
I would pick out a Spring AKC/UKC Hunt test in the area and just go watch. Most Pro Trainers will be present. The group training is OK but if you have the funds go with a Pro training a retriever is time consuming and if not done correctly you and the dog will suffer when hunting.
My recommendation would be Joe Perron Champion Retrievers my son is putting a puppy with him in the fall but he stays booked
My recommendation would be Joe Perron Champion Retrievers my son is putting a puppy with him in the fall but he stays booked
Posted on 3/22/18 at 1:09 pm to MWP
Amite is having a hint test this weekend at Dixon correctional facility. That’s where you will probably see some of the trainers this weekend that we’re mentioned.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 1:12 pm to PSUMMERS
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The group training is OK but if you have the funds go with a Pro training a retriever is time consuming and if not done correctly you and the dog will suffer when hunting.
Yes, training a dog is time consuming. I can completely relate to guys that send their dogs to trainers since the finished product in a blind is ultimately going to be measured in how much time you or a trainer spend in training correctly. However, I just can't justify the cost when you can selectively pick puppies out of top notch pedigrees and there is so much training information out there to utilize. Plus, the support network is 1,000 times better than what it was when the gold standard for training a retriever was Water Dog.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 1:36 pm to stamant70774
Actually, just about every trainer mentioned here is registered for the HT in Shreveport. Wouldn't hurt to go meet the Amite folks, pros, and see dogs work, but don't expect to find trainers mentioned here
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