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Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82142 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:09 pm to
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Interesting, I was going with the dome scenario based on what my buddies camp neighbor had said about his concerns with the brine that was talked about. He claimed that he was told that they would be dealing with brine lines and he was concerned about salt water in the lake.
Confirmed not dome scenario.



Here is a link that they have provided media on the project:
LINK
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4095 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:34 pm to
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The seismic tests are done with equipment that produces sound waves. Not dynamite as you allude.

Are they using gunboats? Once again neighbors buddy said dynamite, and that’s the reason I told him that dynamite siesmic was not a concern gunboat shots are not really a big deal either but I would have thought the lake would be to shallow for that.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18617 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:37 pm to
Found the AirGas rep.

Dude. Forgive me if I don’t trust this process and don’t like where it’s going.
I’m not a scientist and I don’t work in the O & G industry. However, I do live on the water near Lake Maurepas and it’s not unreasonable for me to be concerned.

There is a history with these things.


Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18617 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:39 pm to
I’ve heard explosives as well.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6966 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:44 pm to
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Forgive me if I don’t trust this process and don’t like where it’s going.
I’m not a scientist and I don’t work in the O & G industry. However, I do live on the water near Lake Maurepas and it’s not unreasonable for me to be concerned.

There is a history with these things.


You are correct there's history with these things. There's also 10x more hoops to jump through in order to acquire regulatory authorizations for these types of projects. The agencies are put under immense pressure from NGOs to not issue permits in fear of litigation. By the time one of these projects get's authorized, it's been scrutinized and over-engineered 12x over. It may not be unreasonable for you to be concerned, but your concern is nothing other than emotional.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18617 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:49 pm to
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It may not be unreasonable for you to be concerned, but your concern is nothing other than emotional.


Yep. No argument there. I’m pretty emotional about it.

I hope you are right and my concerns are unfounded, but I wouldn’t be mad if this got moved to Ferriday.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9918 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:58 pm to
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Apparently, carbon dioxide had been accumulating from underground springs and was being held down by the water in the lake. When the billion cubic yards of gas finally burst out, it traveled low to the ground—it is heavier than air—until it dispersed.


Well this is kinda opposite from the tree huggers argument that CO2 is depleting the atmosphere. Also, that volume of CO2 converted from imperial measurement is a metric shite tonne.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46312 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:03 pm to
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I hope you are right and my concerns are unfounded, but I wouldn’t be mad if this got moved to Ferriday.


Wait, if Ferriday is a possibility, I'm all for moving this project to that shithole.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82142 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:18 pm to
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I’m not a scientist and I don’t work in the O & G industry.
Valid and fair, step 1 would be gaining a better understanding of the process before making crazy claims.
quote:

However, I do live on the water near Lake Maurepas and it’s not unreasonable for me to be concerned.
Also valid and fair, that is why going back to step 1 above should be a priority.

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Found the AirGas rep.

No, I'm familiar with the industry...and the company doing this isn't even Airgas FWIW.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18617 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:21 pm to
I realized that after I posted. Oh well. Sue me.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1972 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:08 pm to
Well, I’m glad some others stepped in. I was ready for a hundred downvotes and people talking about carbonated catfish. I’m sure there is some new technology somewhere in this whole project that may be concerning but I don’t think it’s in the injection wells.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18617 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:20 pm to
Where does your confidence in these wells come from?

I’m genuinely curious.

Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22915 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Where does your confidence in these wells come from?


The O&G industry has been doing this for a long time with relatively few incidents. This is essentially an EOR project except there’s no oil or gas in the storage reservoir to squeeze out.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1972 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:13 pm to
Oil and gas companies drill into these deep rock formations all the time. When they get down there, they use high pressure fluid to fracture the rock formation and make oil flow easier. They may inject gas in at that well to lower the density and make it flow faster. They also may come back at a later date, drill a well somewhere else in that same reservoir and use co2, water, or another gas to drive the oil toward the production wellhead. You can understand why that whole production is far more complex than what is happening here.

I’m not saying this is all great, it’s just routine. If they were drilling these wells really shallow, or planning to frack for some reason, I may be more concerned about it.

People talk down on fracking and EOR outside of the context of carbon sequestration for the same reasons you are concerned about. I’m not saying their concerns aren’t valid, I’m just saying this seems pretty routine.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:31 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 5:38 pm
Posted by NatalbanyTigerFan
On the water somewhere
Member since Oct 2007
8575 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:37 am to
A buddy of mine has a camp on Lakeshore Canal just inside Tickfaw River from the lake and he said they received letters telling them that they cant be at their camps when the charges are being set off.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9918 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:00 am to
The seismic charge is a little bigger than the dig scene from Jurassic Park. I doubt the charge is anything to worry about other than the company doesn't want the liability of anyone around just in case. The same as if a construction or mining company was having to do any blasting in rock, you have to clear the area for safety.

LINK

CO2 capture & sequestration is some bullshite the government is pushing to help with greenhouse gases. They want to fine the shite out of any company that has anything to do with fossil fuels, so companies are finding new ways to make easy scam money in the name of "saving the environment." Kinda like buying stupid carbon offset credits. It's just a money racket, and its forced by the EPA.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 8:02 am
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18617 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:08 am to
Not to mention the billions of dollars in tax write offs.

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82142 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:19 pm to
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Not to mention the billions of dollars in tax write offs.

Honest question - do you think the project will not bring any taxes to the local governments? When they spoke to the LCA at one of the recent meetings, the guy up there said over the next 10 years, about $150 million in taxes will be paid to state and local governments from this one project alone. That is massive
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1972 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:38 pm to
I feel the same about the taxes, we’ve lost a lot of energy and chemical industry to Texas. I’m being dramatic, but I feel like if we keep on this path we will just have personal injury lawyers, pogies, and federal handouts holding us up. If our geology supports it, I hope it is viable here.

I agree that carbon sequestration is a silly as a concept, but if the industry exists and Louisiana can recruit jobs and industry here because of it, why not here?
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