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Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Downshift
Well said !!!
Well said !!!
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:37 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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but marketing teams have discovered that a lot of hunters think the only reason they can’t get groups like that is the gun, ammo, cartridge, etc. not because they yank the everliving shite out of their 7lb 300 win mag’s trigger.
Outstanding post! This is why I can’t get too interested in all these new offerings and have actually consolidated what I shoot, down to 2 centerfire chamberings.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:06 am to Doggystyle
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But is it really any better than the timed tested 7mm magnum????
In some ways, yes, it is better.
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I know we can get into BC and what not but that stuff really has no bearing on the average Hunter. Long range precision shooting out to 1000 yards - maybe? Call me old fashioned but I like the “traditional” cartridges.
Unfortunately for the Fudds out there, people demand ever increasing performance and there is a growing population of those that want a hunting cartridge that can perform at distance as well as be a viable long-range target hitter. 7PRC is designed to push heavier, longer, high-SD/BC bullets and do so more efficiently than 7RM. For a reloader's perspective, not having to deal with a belted magnum case is a big deal. Just a special resizing collect alone is $130 and it still doesn't address case bulge above the belt. 7PRC will also work with a larger variety of powders and there are new magnum-oriented powders being put on the market which is great for the PRC's and everyone else. 7mm Backcountry is also a big deal, pushing the pressure limits opens up horizons for a host of other cartridges if the technology expands that way. If you already have 7RM and don't reload or are fine reloading belted cartridges then there isn't much reason to go to 7PRC. For someone like me who doesn't own any magnum rifles and isn't interested in the hunting potential as much as just hitting something at 1000+ yds and reloads then 7PRC is a better choice.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 11:10 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:10 am to Clames
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for the Fudds out there
Hey hey heeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Little too much over target there
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:19 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Little too much over target there
Think that's the main point here, those of us who are a bit younger and less set in our ways and want to hit more targets...
And I will always have my 30-30 and .308's in the cabinet and maybe a 30-06 that isn't a Garand again someday. But 7PRC is pretty good looking if you are into taking this stuff apart and putting it back together.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 2:28 pm to Clames
Cool thing is we are getting stuff out of CAD now, with some really good simulation software being used as well, so companies can make good decisions on cartridge and bullet design. It stands to reason the new stuff would be better than the old stuff. Chamber pressure and powder chemistry are what's holding us back in terms of bullet launchers, and having the steel case high pressure thing addresses one of them.
We might be a few years away from chucking a 165gr bullet at 4200 fps from a 7mm.
We might be a few years away from chucking a 165gr bullet at 4200 fps from a 7mm.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 2:46 pm to Clames
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Unfortunately for the Fudds out there, people demand ever increasing performance and there is a growing population of those that want a hunting cartridge that can perform at distance as well as be a viable long-range target hitter.
I’m a middle of the road fudd almost 50yr old hunt with a 30-30 and a 6.5cr and dialing scopes.
I’m all for innovation and don’t mind trying new things and have changed my opinions on what I once had based on experience (223 fusion) I was laughed at when I said it was a legit round 10–12yr ago when I tried it on deer at 50yd for my kids. I kept stepping it out farther and farther and it’s legit 200yd cartridge and maybe farther.
Biggest issue I have is all the effort most people spend stressing over a caliber should be spent on learning how to hunt/shoot, how to hunt harder and learn how animals move and where they are at and getting in better physical shape.
It’s about like trying to buy a custom made Damascus steel-roux spoon and knife and exotic metal cast iron pot and Viking stove to go learn how to cook a gravy. MFr that spoon ain’t what is holding you back you still don’t know how to chop an onion or stir a roux yet!!!
Posted on 1/28/25 at 4:03 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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We might be a few years away from chucking a 165gr bullet at 4200 fps from a 7mm.
Yeah, that is probably technically feasible now but I imagine that'd be a barrel burner for sure. Hopefully barrel metallurgy will advance to a point to keep up with cartridge development too.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 4:19 pm to Ol boy
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Biggest issue I have is all the effort most people spend stressing over a caliber should be spent on learning how to hunt/shoot, how to hunt harder and learn how animals move and where they are at and getting in better physical shape.
I hear you you on all of that, one of my bigger Army gripes these last 20 years too...
We have Aimpoint M68 CCO's mounted on every single M4A1 collecting dust because we can't get ammo and a range together on the training schedule for soldiers that will most not qualify anyway. I would give a lot for and old weaponeer, shadow box, and a MACS setup. I actually have a shadow box and a set of the targets and a few of the old training aids but I seriously doubt I could really get the current crop of soldiers to "get it". 
Posted on 1/28/25 at 4:50 pm to Clames
We'll have inconel barrel sleeves before you know it!
I'm not sure what the actual solution will be, but costs aside I'd think it would be somewhat straightforward to hardface the leade somehow?
I'm not sure what the actual solution will be, but costs aside I'd think it would be somewhat straightforward to hardface the leade somehow?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:09 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
LINK watchtower firearms Bridger rifle
Edit I found it
I can’t find it but I saw a video from shot show a company is making a metal sleeve that is thin but has hexagonal pattern machined in it with a titanium sleeve over it.
Claim that it’s more rigid and heat dissipating than conventional barrels and better than carbon wrapped.
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We'll have inconel barrel sleeves before you know
Edit I found it
I can’t find it but I saw a video from shot show a company is making a metal sleeve that is thin but has hexagonal pattern machined in it with a titanium sleeve over it.
Claim that it’s more rigid and heat dissipating than conventional barrels and better than carbon wrapped.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:49 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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We'll have inconel barrel sleeves before you know it!
Think the Army tried Stellite sleeves for machine gun barrels a while back and there were serious problems with them. Think it had to do with the fact that no matter how close the sleeves fit, there was still a problem with how everything reacted to thermal loading. Maybe an inconel or stellite core wrapped with carbon fiber but I think that barrel would require the sale of a kidney.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:12 pm to Clames
There was a guy a while back manufacturing replaceable chambers for barrels. Thought it was a cool concept, don't know if it really worked.
It was the first 4-6" inches of the barrel. Just replace when the throat was toast.
It was the first 4-6" inches of the barrel. Just replace when the throat was toast.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:19 pm to LSUTiger23
I was actually about to start this thread. I'm between a 30-06 and a 300 Win Mag.
Looking for a big rifle to head out west with.
Anyone have any suggestions/preference between these two?
Looking for a big rifle to head out west with.
Anyone have any suggestions/preference between these two?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:23 pm to thegreatboudini
300 Win Mag will do everything a 30-06 will do but I would also look into 300 PRC.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:38 pm to thegreatboudini
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was actually about to start this thread. I'm between a 30-06 and a 300 Win Mag. Looking for a big rifle to head out west with.
Do you reload or buy off the shelf?
Reload =300 prc
Off the shelf = 300 win mag.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:47 pm to thegreatboudini
300 win mag is universal north American do everything recommendation, provided you can deal with a little recoil. It's not much worse than a .30-06 and I dont find it hard to deal with, but I havent shot a whole bunch of .300's. I do shoot a .338 a lot.
A .30-06 with a 26" barrel will nip right on the heels of a 300 win mag and burn less powder doing it, but model 70 alaskan is the only rifle i know of that is available in 06 with such a long barrel. Hell of a fine rifle though.
.30-06 will do it all, .300win will do it all better, and 300 prc will do it all bestest, but that's kind of a different animal.
A .30-06 with a 26" barrel will nip right on the heels of a 300 win mag and burn less powder doing it, but model 70 alaskan is the only rifle i know of that is available in 06 with such a long barrel. Hell of a fine rifle though.
.30-06 will do it all, .300win will do it all better, and 300 prc will do it all bestest, but that's kind of a different animal.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:22 pm to thegreatboudini
Since buying a .300 WM I’m not sure I’ve even picked up my -06
It’s the gun I reach for on nearly every big game hunt
It’s the gun I reach for on nearly every big game hunt
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:25 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Pretty interesting take from everyone. I've gotten 300WM on all of my feedback except 1.
Rounds are coming off the shelf.
It'll be a Tikka if that makes a difference.
I don't think I've shot a 300 once in my life TBH, .270 and .270wsm are what I'm very familiar with.
Rounds are coming off the shelf.
It'll be a Tikka if that makes a difference.
I don't think I've shot a 300 once in my life TBH, .270 and .270wsm are what I'm very familiar with.
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