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Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:57 am to
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:57 am to
Not bad but it's also not ambi (besides the selector) like the the Sabre complete rifles.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39930 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:00 am to
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Am I missing something or are these PSA Sabre lowers an absolute deal?


i wanted to get a Sabre so bad. but everyone here indirectly talked me out of it because of PSA's QC from 10 years ago.


for $10-20 more, you can get the same lower, but with actual B5 furniture.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:00 am to
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JohnDoe00

This is what I'm about to do. Nothing wrong with dropping the money on DD but I'm on a budget.



Sales tax for me is 6% so it may be higher or lower for you.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 10:03 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39930 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:14 am to
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Not bad but it's also not ambi (besides the selector) like the the Sabre complete rifles.



the billet rifles are the only one's that are "fully" ambidextrous.


https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-sabre-billet-16-5-56-nitride-15-knurled-slant-rail-and-sabre-furniture.html







Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27182 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:15 am to
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Nothing wrong with dropping the money on DD but I'm on a budget.


After a certain point you're paying for fit & finish, matched upper/lower with no play and roll marks, not functionality. Nothing wrong with paying for that stuff, but people need to understand what their money is buying. The entire "tier" rankings for ARs is 90% bullshite.

If I hid the Colt roll mark on half the stuff I used in the military your average gun snob would declare it lower tier junk.
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2019
910 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:31 am to
Got all the way to checkout and then I wimped out on the DD.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39930 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:38 am to
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Got all the way to checkout and then I wimped out on the DD.








also, i don't know how "honest" that website/store is. i've never bought from them.
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2019
910 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:50 am to
Well now Metro and Flats have me wanting to save money.

I also think one could be a potential wedding gift for me in the upcoming weeks from my groomsman. Not sure the quality I would recieve however, but I would be happy with anything.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 10:51 am
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13900 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 11:06 am to
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I'm a prism supremacist. Look at what this dude did to a Primary Arms 3x prism (one of my favorites, and sub $300):
- Left in a rain barrel for a week
- Dropped/thrown a bunch of times
- Ran through dishwasher
- Frozen for weeks
- Shot with 12 gauge to free it from ice

Still going like a champ.
These are actually now $189. Absolute steal. Amazon link
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27182 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 11:07 am to
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Well now Metro and Flats have me wanting to save money.


The upside to a complete rifle from someone like DD is that you can always sell it. Nothing wrong with wanting a "nice" AR, it just depends on what you want out of it. I shoot my guns, hardly anybody sees them but me and I don't sell them, so a franken-gun built exactly the way I want is the best choice for me.

If you're just dipping your toe into the AR waters and may sell it once you get bored, DD isn't a bad choice. If you just want a reliable weapon you don't have to spend DD money.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 11:34 am to
Frankencobbled ARs are great. You know all of the components that went into the build and can upgrade very easily on specific parts if you ever choose to.

When I was getting an AR10, I didn't want to mess with it because there aren't as many parts available and whatever so I just bought a complete Seekins SP10.
Posted by cajun3gunner
Member since Mar 2023
158 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 12:43 pm to
I agree with building your own. It's definitly fun to buy exactly what parts you want in your rifle. Pick a good barrel and trigger and your gtg
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39930 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 12:53 pm to
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I agree with building your own.


the only "problem" with building his own is the extra expense of buying the necessary tools to do it right. then he has to worry about his own quality control. buying a built refile from a reputable company, like DD/Aero/BCM/etc., he doesn't have to worry about all of that.

if he wanted to piece something together, i'd recommend buying a 100% built lower/upper separately and slap them together and call it good.
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2019
910 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:15 pm to
Excuse my naiveness...What optics can you run with pop up sights? Do you have to switch over to 45 sights when you mount an optic?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39930 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:53 pm to
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What optics can you run with pop up sights?



red dot/holographic with magnifier. either one will be "co-witnessed" iron sights.









scope/LPVO (low power variable optic) is a bit more "fixed" on the rail so then you could use a canted red dot or iron sights.






This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 1:57 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:04 pm to
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Well now Metro and Flats have me wanting to save money.

I also think one could be a potential wedding gift for me in the upcoming weeks from my groomsman. Not sure the quality I would recieve however, but I would be happy with anything.

Found another one to ponder...IWI Zion 15 here for under $750 + free shipping + sales tax with promo code 10OFFIWI.

LINK

Throw in MBUS front and rear sights here:

LINK ($25.20, add to cart)

LINK ($36.55, add to cart)
Posted by cajun3gunner
Member since Mar 2023
158 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:43 pm to
I forgot about buying the tools. There's gotta be someone on the board that could lend him some.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39930 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 11:58 pm to
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IWI Zion 15


there's a lot of love for those. the local gun store fella tried to sell me one before i built me aero.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:05 am to
It's a great rifle for the price. I do wish the barrel was chrome lined though.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16849 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:33 am to
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