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re: Tresspassor update: The plot thickens.(update 12/21 page 29)
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:58 pm to RockChalkTiger
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:58 pm to RockChalkTiger
I don't know if this is good protocol for a first-time poster, but I would like to invite DieselTiger1 to contact me regarding his case. I have recently won a judgment in a lawsuit against a GW in SC that began (and then escalated) with this same type of camera issue on my land.
For funsies, do a Google search regarding the Ohio officers who were indicted for allowing a SC game warden to hunt in Ohio on a fraudulent resident license. The SC warden is my man.
For your protection, I would not ask for any information from you about your case. I just want to offer moral and practical encouragement. I'd be glad to share my legal affidavits, formal complaint (suit), etc.
I don't know the best manner by which to communicate- please advise, Tiger Droppings crew.
p.s. Great forum.
For funsies, do a Google search regarding the Ohio officers who were indicted for allowing a SC game warden to hunt in Ohio on a fraudulent resident license. The SC warden is my man.
For your protection, I would not ask for any information from you about your case. I just want to offer moral and practical encouragement. I'd be glad to share my legal affidavits, formal complaint (suit), etc.
I don't know the best manner by which to communicate- please advise, Tiger Droppings crew.
p.s. Great forum.
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Posted on 12/22/10 at 11:23 pm to RockChalkTiger
quote:
The reason they have that right is because game belongs to everyone.
I'm done hijacking after this post, but if this were the case:
1. Why do hunters get to keep the game?
2. What if I'm on my property and kill a deer that is on an adjacent property owned by someone else?
Posted on 12/22/10 at 11:31 pm to Golfer
quote:
The reason they have that right is because game belongs to everyone.
Actually the game is res nullius and belongs to no one. But it is managed by the public sector, but it is not owned by them. If it a wild animal damages your property they are not responsible. You have a right to take game on your property.
This post was edited on 12/22/10 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 12/22/10 at 11:32 pm to justiceroll
quote:
For funsies, do a Google search regarding the Ohio officers who were indicted for allowing a SC game warden to hunt in Ohio on a fraudulent resident license. The SC warden is my man.
Oh shite,be right back!
Posted on 12/22/10 at 11:35 pm to DieselTiger1
quote:
The whole "open fields doctrine" applies here in regards to the 4th amendment.
Open Fields doctrine might get him on the property. But to open the cameras would seem to overstep the authority. I could be wrong but if there is no "probable cause" for a search or illegal activity in plain sight then he does not have the authority to open a camera on private land and look at the memory card. Would seem to be an illegal search and seizure under the 4th Amendment. If you could prove this was sanctioned the the MDWF and their practice to enter private property and conduct these type of illegal searches you could nail the entire department down.
quote:
He can enter my property because he is a game warden but he can't tamper with or take my cameras/memory cards.
When he opens the cameras I would think this is an illegal search.
He may have some limited right to access if on "official business". The question here is whether or not his entrance and exit from the property is in exercise of his duties. It appears not to be.
This post was edited on 12/22/10 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 12/22/10 at 11:47 pm to justiceroll
quote:
Top Ohio wildlife officials indicted
By Frank Hinchey
Contributing Writer
Published:
Monday, April 12, 2010 1:31 PM CDT
Georgetown, Ohio – The chief of the DNR Division of Wildlife, an assistant chief and four other DOW officials were placed on paid administrative leave after being indicted on felony charges.
quote:
Five employees are accused of failure to pursue a criminal investigation of a wildlife officer charged with assisting a South Carolina wildlife officer to purchase a $19 Ohio resident hunting license instead of a $125 out-of-state license.
Read more: LINK
This post was edited on 12/22/10 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 12/23/10 at 3:46 am to ItTakesAThief
Why do you all believe Green Jeans may be onto y'all? I don't want to read the whole thread and got this from the cliff notes on pg 26.
Posted on 12/23/10 at 6:40 am to Golfer
quote:
1. Why do hunters get to keep the game?
Because they purchased a license and took it legally. Why is it legal for me to cut a Christmas tree in a National Forest. It's a public resource, managed on behalf of the public.
If we didn't have management, deer, turkey and ducks might go the way of the passenger pigeon. Sometimes we have to protect ourselves from ourselves.
Posted on 12/23/10 at 6:43 am to ItTakesAThief
quote:
Actually the game is res nullius and belongs to no one. But it is managed by the public sector, but it is not owned by them. If it a wild animal damages your property they are not responsible.
But if a reintroduced predator (wolves, grizzlies) damages private property, the government will reimburse damages.
This post was edited on 12/23/10 at 6:44 am
Posted on 12/23/10 at 6:45 am to RockChalkTiger
Diesel,
Considering your lapse in response from the local authorities.......and if JBlood cannot get any info......shoot me an email, I have some friends that can likely help. Politically, that is....not mafia!
Considering your lapse in response from the local authorities.......and if JBlood cannot get any info......shoot me an email, I have some friends that can likely help. Politically, that is....not mafia!
Posted on 12/23/10 at 8:21 am to bossflossjr
Pure awesomeness!
Posted on 12/23/10 at 8:37 am to TigersSEC2010
quote:
Why do you all believe Green Jeans may be onto y'all? I don't want to read the whole thread and got this from the cliff notes on pg 26.
at some point some guy gferg popped into the discussion. he didn't have any posts and he said he was willing to help diesel. just seemed random.
Posted on 12/23/10 at 8:38 am to DieselTiger1
quote:
Anyone wanna give me details about this?
Diesel gets a new deer lease in mississippi
game cameras are setup along with feeders
game cameras are showing lots of pics
1 camera has far less pics than the others
SD card in this camera has additional pics on it
Additional pics include scenic view, blonde woman & her man
blonde is dubbed - Whop Head Dolly
Dude is dubbed - Green Jeans
Diesel comes here for help
weeks later Diesels buddy encounters Green Jeans on their lease
Green Jeans is a MS game warden & issues Diesels buddy a ticket for no orange
Green Jeans admits to swiping the cards & agrees to return them
Buddy reports to Diesel that a camera & feeder have been stolen & he spotted Green Jeans
Diesel updates the board
Several posters aid Diesel in his search for Green Jeans true identity
Diesel gets a name & is waiting to confirm with his buddy
new poster gferg pops up out of nowhere & says he can help
The board suspects that Green Jeans may be on to us
Diesel is waiting to report Green Jeans to the authorities until he can confirm the name
With the help of the OD Board, Diesel has confirmed that Green Jeans is none other than Allen Patrick
This was also confirmed by several members of the board who googled the dudes name
Diesel filed a complaint online & planned to call in a complaint the next morning
Since filing the report, Diesel has been MIA & the board is concerned that Diesel may have become a victim of whop head Dolly
Pg. 29 - Diesel posts an update
Diesel comfirms that he did follow up with a phone complaint & is told that he will hear back from Five-0 soon
He never gets a call
Diesel returns to his lease to find that all his remaining game cameras have been stripped of their memory cards
Diesel goes hunting & while in the stand he spots a MDWFP truck snooping
Diesel makes another call to a higher ranking official
The official he spoke to confirms that the incident is infact under investigation
Diesel get several facebook friend requests from folks in the area where he hunts
Diesel believes that Green Jeans or one of his buddies may have sent the request
Diesel still has not received a call back from Five-0 regarding his complaint
The board suggests that Diesel take this to the next level & get the Feds involved
Everyone on the board seems to agree that an agency other than MDWFP needs to be contacted
Diesel confirms that he is infact packing heat in the form of a side arm while in the stand
The board suggest that Diesel post a sign reading "Tresspassors will be shot" on his lease
jsmoke posted cliffnotes
The pics of Green Jeans & Whop Head Dolly:
Posted on 12/23/10 at 9:00 am to bossflossjr
I searched his name through the employee system and all for Louisiana. got nothing. i'm going to try and goolge him or go find the links posted on the thread and see is i can log in on something for some more "research"
Posted on 12/23/10 at 9:13 am to jsmoke222000
has this been posted yet?
10. Copiah County.............................. 6,583. ..........................Hazlehurst..............................Allen Patrick...........................601-277-3636
That's from this document: https://www.mdwfp.com/Level2/Wildlife/Game/Deer/pdf/2007DeerReport.pdf
10. Copiah County.............................. 6,583. ..........................Hazlehurst..............................Allen Patrick...........................601-277-3636
That's from this document: https://www.mdwfp.com/Level2/Wildlife/Game/Deer/pdf/2007DeerReport.pdf
Posted on 12/23/10 at 9:19 am to WikiTiger
Posted on 12/23/10 at 9:22 am to jsmoke222000
Merry Christmas Green Jeans.
Posted on 12/23/10 at 9:25 am to bpinson
Posted on 12/23/10 at 9:34 am to deaconjones35
quote:
deaconjones35
Diesel, have you considered getting a news organization involved. FWIW, this has all the ingredients for an epic episode of Dateline NBC. Stone Phillips would be all over this shite! Not to mention the exposure that TD.com would get because of it.
Posted on 12/23/10 at 9:42 am to jsmoke222000
Great idea... get Stone or Hoda on his arse
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