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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Harry Boutte
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:25 pm to
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It’s that there could have been a civilization that built the pyramids using processes or tools that we don’t understand and the Egyptians built a city around those or existing structures.

You're trying to claim it was NOT the Egyptian civilization? Why? Wouldn't the simpler answer be that the Egyptians of the Old Kingdom had technology we are unaware of? Is there any evidence whatsoever of another civilization that can't be ascribed to Egyptians?
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:26 pm to
The Egyptians didn’t build them - water erosion shows they are at least 12,000 years old. An advance civilization built them and they were wiped off the earth in the younger dryus
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:26 pm to
What materials would you expect a Bronze Age (or prior) civilization to use to make large monuments? Stone

What structures would you expect them to make with stone? Forms of stacking stone, primarily pyramids (which is why we see pyramids everywhere from that era and/or societal developmental status).
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 3:27 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:26 pm to
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I post this guy's videos regularly. People can't fathom how they could have raised massive stones.

Here's a video of one old guy raising massive stones by himself.

Then it's *crickets.


I knew the Stonehenge video was on YT but this first time I've seen these other videos. I just searched for them.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:27 pm to
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Pretty sure I’ve seen on a documentary that the builders weren’t slaves. Feel free to check my work.

Even if it wasn't slaves, they were built by the richest civilization by the pharaoh. They had plenty to pay thousands.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Pretty sure I’ve seen on a documentary that the builders weren’t slaves. Feel free to check my work.


Well, when you put it that way.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:28 pm to
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The Egyptians didn’t build them - water erosion shows they are at least 12,000 years old. An advance civilization built them and they were wiped off the earth in the younger dryus


Same thing in Mexico? Noah’s flood? Wiped out the people, but not the pyramids? Those advanced civilizations should have climbed the pyramids.
Posted by Harry Boutte
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:29 pm to
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even evolution is a theory

No, it's not. Evolution means change. There's absolutely no doubt that there has been change throughout history. "Natural Selection" is the theoretical part of "Evolution through Natural Selection".

There's irrefutable evidence that there were creatures on the planet that are no longer here. It's the whys and hows that are theoretical.
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Contrary to popular belief, the Great Pyramids of Giza were not built by slaves, but rather by paid laborers, who lived in a purpose-built village and were well-fed.


From Googles AI
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:30 pm to
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The Egyptians


Are the people that lived in Egypt 12,000 years ago not Egyptians?

BTW, I'm not disputing your Younger Dryus flood hypothesis.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:30 pm to
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No, it's not. Evolution means change.


Yet it’s still called “the Theory of evolution.”

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There's irrefutable evidence that there were creatures on the planet that are no longer here. It's the whys and hows that are theoretical.


Does not change status of “theory.”


My entire point is that just because something is a theory it doesn’t mean there isn’t overwhelming evidence to support it.
Posted by mwlewis
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:30 pm to
Is this evidence to the theory that water flowed underneath the pyramid and it acted as a generator?
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:31 pm to
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It's NOT remotely possible the men of that time and region built those


The pyramids are not perfect and many were poorly built. Archeologists can see where the people improved over time at their construction of pyramids. If it was aliens they wouldn't have shown such progression as they would have already known how to build them correctly.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:32 pm to
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From Googles AI


ok. How many of them were there? Also, I guess gooogle AI proved they were in fact built by Egyptians. Just paid Egyptians?

Case closed.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 3:33 pm
Posted by mwlewis
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:32 pm to
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Pretty sure I’ve seen on a documentary that the builders weren’t slaves. Feel free to check my work.


They have found writings in the graves of the workers that that told about it being a great honor to work on the pyramids. One "foreman" was buried near the Great Pyramid among nobles. I believe it was from The Pyramid Code on netflix many years ago.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:33 pm to
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And yes, we may not be able to replicate exactly how to do this, but we're also not a civilization based around moving stones onto each other, and we divert almost 0% of societal resources to thinking about it


Correct. We certainly could do it. We are biologically not much different than they were. We just aren't going to amass millions of slaves, set up an ancient supply chain, and spend 50 - 100 years stacking blocks together in a big arse pyramid just to prove it can be done.

Any logical thinking human being with a little mechanical sense can stand back and say "yea, it would suck but it could be done by hand." If you're dedicated, you can easily prove how individual steps would be performed.

It's so obvious to me that I put "the pyramids were impossible to build" people in the same group as flat earth people - the only way I can conceive them taking that stance is trolling.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:34 pm to
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Same thing in Mexico? Noah’s flood? Wiped out the people, but not the pyramids? Those advanced civilizations should have climbed the pyramids.


Some of these flood theories make sense and there is geologic evidence to support these floods. Afterall we were slowly coming out of the ice age 20,000 years ago and these glaciers don't necessarily melt in a linear fashion. There will be time of slow melt that cause no downstream flooding and periods where melt water will be trapped and suddenly released causing sudden downstream flooding, and everything in between.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:34 pm to
Materials are one thing.

The building and engineering process and the information being presented recently is something different.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58242 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:35 pm to
Soooooo….ancient super smart civilization or Egyptians? I’m getting very confused. Google AI told me Egyptians. But not slaves.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:37 pm to
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Materials are one thing.

The building and engineering process and the information being presented recently is something different.


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The pyramids are big stacks of blocks, stacked in a way that allowed them to build the largest thing they could conceive at that time.



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This is also the answer to the earlier question asking how we knew they weren't advanced.

What they did was impressive, but exactly what you'd expect from a civilization of that era.

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