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Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:14 pm to
Having Colonels that are charged with performing a set task and when done or failed stop in place and request new orders

That gets you dead quick.
Posted by Cincinnati Tiigre
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:14 pm to
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Small world. His son was my Intel Officer for a couple years about 10-12 years ago. Great guy


Great to hear he that he’s had a successful life and chose to serve.
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:16 pm to



Captain Scott Speicher.

Shot down in his F-18 on the first night of the Gulf War in 1991 by a MiG-25, according to declassified CIA documents. He was flying at 28,000 ft and 540 knots when struck head on by a R40 air to air missile about 100 miles west of Baghdad.

All kinds of rumors swirled as to his status, I won't go into them now. But in 2009, US Marines, 3rd Battalion, 3rd Marines found his bones a short distance from the crash site. The bones were verified to be Speicher after examination at Dover AFB. Bedouins had found his plane wreckage and his body and had buried him in the desert. It took some time after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 to track down the Bedouins, who are nomadic, that could verify the story.

Speicher was finally brought home and laid to rest in honor at Jacksonville, FL with his widow, his best friend (who married his widow), children, and the children of his widow and best friend in attendance.






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Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:24 pm to
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VFA-81

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Posted by captainFid
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:34 pm to
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an understatement... thanks for posting!
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:48 pm to
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It proved the Russian Doctrine was doomed to failure.

Centrally controlled centrally executed command with senior leaders that don't know the battle plan that aren't allowed to react and thinks for themselves versus a dynamic centrally controlled decentralized execution with commanders at all levels having a working knowledge of the battle plan was the true lesson learned.


Mid-level NCO's and junior officers have been the decisive factor in American wars for the last 150 years, if not longer.

It is extremely difficult to explain to people who have not experienced it, but how American culture informs military theory is a strategic asset in a way that even things like B-2's and nuclear subs and the like cannot be. Only other Anglosphere countries and France can materially mimic it.

A good Staff Sergeant, Sergeant First Class, First Sergeant, First Lieutenant, Captain, Major is worth about 10 times what they are paid, if not more. Trusting small unit commanders and leaders to make what could become strategic decisions on the ground is revolutionary.

It occasionally bites us in the arse, but for every incident either intentional (think My Lai, Mahmudiyah, Abu Ghraib, Maywand, etc.) or unintentional (Gaza Valley, etc.), there are thousands of little wins that go our way that undergird our way of fighting.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:58 pm to
Correct.

We were in a think tank lessons learned afterwards. Some Russian retired generals and Admirals were present.

It terrified them to see what happened to the doctrine.

One wanted a tour of a fighter squadron. We went over and he was absolutely stunned to see no officers in any of the maintenance shops just in command positions.

He said basically our E-5s have as much if not more impact then junior officers in Russia.
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