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re: A Constitutional Convention. Democrats fear it's coming ....
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:39 pm to JimEverett
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:39 pm to JimEverett
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Do it via the amendment process, not a convention.
A Convention of States is an amendment process.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:41 pm to JimEverett
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I oppose a constitutional convention. Way too much potential for damage. A convention would allow for a total transformation of the Constitution along with the rules for ratifying changes.
This is an unfounded fear. It takes 38 states to ratify a constitutional amendment. That is a HUGE threshold to overcome.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:41 pm to scottydoesntknow
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zero chance you could get 26 states to agree to reparations
Need 38.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:42 pm to scrooster
CONgress Term Limits total 10 years both chambers combined.
Lobbying for 10 years after term over is illegal and no lifetime benefits either.
Lobbying for 10 years after term over is illegal and no lifetime benefits either.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:43 pm to scrooster
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What am I forgetting?
Congressional term limits.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:44 pm to scrooster
The 21st amendment was the only amendment to get ratified through a Convention of States.
The federal government said you can't have booze through the 18th amendment. States said f' you with the 21st amendment.
The federal government said you can't have booze through the 18th amendment. States said f' you with the 21st amendment.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:45 pm to scrooster
Convention is only one part.
Whatever comes out of there still has to get ratified by 3/4 of the states
Whatever comes out of there still has to get ratified by 3/4 of the states
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:47 pm to scrooster
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Strengthen the 2A
Remove the well-regulated militia language; the amendment shall simply read that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:47 pm to udtiger
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Whatever comes out of there still has to get ratified by 3/4 of the states
People that are afraid of a "runaway convention" do not understand the ratification process and how it prevents a "runaway convention".
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:48 pm to scottydoesntknow
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zero chance you could get 26 states to agree to reparations
You're a few states short. But yeah.
These were intentionally designed to be extremely difficult to perform.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:49 pm to LSUbest
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Term limits
This is perfect.
Congress will never give themselves term limits. It's up to the states.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:50 pm to scrooster
TERM LIMITS
TERM LIMITS
TERM LIMITS
TERM LIMITS,
After 20 years, unless fired, a public worker must retire,
&
No Lobbying of any kind or anywhere of a government actor, elected or hired.
TERM LIMITS
TERM LIMITS
TERM LIMITS,
After 20 years, unless fired, a public worker must retire,
&
No Lobbying of any kind or anywhere of a government actor, elected or hired.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:50 pm to scrooster
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A Constitutional Convention. Democrats fear it's coming ....
Everyone should fear a convention. Nothing good can come from it. Just imagine who the delegates would be.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:53 pm to GumboPot
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It takes 38 states to ratify a constitutional amendment.
Unless, of course, they decide differently at the convention and do something else.
You know, like basically all such conventions ever.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:57 pm to scrooster
Missing?
It's dangerous as f@ck. You imagine just all the good things. All the good people in government and those behind them.
It would open the floodgates of trillions of dollars all with one thing in mind. Changing it to the will of the deep state and globalist.
It's dangerous as f@ck. You imagine just all the good things. All the good people in government and those behind them.
It would open the floodgates of trillions of dollars all with one thing in mind. Changing it to the will of the deep state and globalist.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:57 pm to scrooster
I like the way this article got you to thinking, Scrooster.
But the article itself is bullshite. These politicos have had to have learned from their advice teams that CC is extremely difficult to accomplish, and has only been done so 3 (?) times in our nations history.
The states are divided at a very disturbing narrow red state majority. That means these dem politicos ain't gonna pass jack shite by CC. But neither are the pubs.
Theyre spouting fear porn again.
But the article itself is bullshite. These politicos have had to have learned from their advice teams that CC is extremely difficult to accomplish, and has only been done so 3 (?) times in our nations history.
The states are divided at a very disturbing narrow red state majority. That means these dem politicos ain't gonna pass jack shite by CC. But neither are the pubs.
Theyre spouting fear porn again.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:57 pm to scrooster
I’d much rather go back to the Articles of Confederation. That will never happen until the federal government inevitably implodes, which it is on its way to doing.
Barring that, doing away with the necessary and proper clause would be sufficient. The Constitution itself is actually a pretty strong document; the mistake was in trusting a central government to check itself, which is why nullification was so important to Madison and Jefferson (Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions of 1798-1799), although undone by Lincoln’s aggression against the South.
Barring that, doing away with the necessary and proper clause would be sufficient. The Constitution itself is actually a pretty strong document; the mistake was in trusting a central government to check itself, which is why nullification was so important to Madison and Jefferson (Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions of 1798-1799), although undone by Lincoln’s aggression against the South.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:59 pm to GumboPot
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A Convention of States is an amendment process.
That is what people thought the last time we had a Constitutional Convention.
Article XIII of the Articles of Confederation stated, "Every State shall abide by the determination of the united States in congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a congress of the united States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State."
So, every State had to agree to a change for such a change to be valid at the Constitutional Convention.
But that is not what happened, because the Constitutional Convention did not simply amend the Articles - as instructed to do by the States - instead it created a whole new Constitution (one that greatly strengthened to Central power on top of it). And created a whole new ratification procedure.
Nothing can stop such a thing from happeneing again.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:59 pm to DyeHardDylan
Before SCs attack on the Federal post at Sumter what exactly were these aggressions you speak of.
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