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re: A Peaceful Breakup
Posted on 6/1/20 at 5:14 pm to Knight of Old
Posted on 6/1/20 at 5:14 pm to Knight of Old
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To concede to anything else is merely a sign of weakness and fear, two distinctly in-American attributes...
The means to get to that point would take a generation and cost hundreds of thousands of lives. We are not to that point but we are not that far away either.
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 5:25 pm to tigeraddict
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that's what China, Russia, EU would like to see...
What does it matter though?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 5:26 pm to Bama2018
Can I spy on Northeast for CSA?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 7:01 pm to troyt37
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Which is now highly illegal. If it can be proven.
That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. There is ample evidence that it still does.
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Nope, same issue. You have people claiming systemic racism, and micro aggressions, off in the ether somewhere. If it can't be quantified, it can't be fixed.
I think the history and the majority/minority relationship matter when considering all of this stuff. Some of it can be quantified. Attitudes and biases are harder but still can to a degree.
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Can't possibly be that blacks commit a higher percentage of traffic violations, and therefore are stopped at a higher percentage? I mean, are we just to ignore that roughly 7% of the population commits something like 75% of the murders in this country? If it is true for murder, it can't possibly be true for traffic violations that get them stopped in the first place?
No that isn’t what is happening
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The data showed that African Americans had been stopped twice as often as white drivers, and while they were four times more likely to be searched, they were actually less likely to be issued a ticket. The study also highlighted that whites were more likely to be found with contraband than blacks or Hispanics.
"There's a way that police interact with middle-class white Americans and there's a way that people in the police forces interact with members of minority communities, especially in poorer neighborhoods,"
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Controlling for variables like the fact that black men commit the overwhelming majority of murders in this country? Can you control for that? Is it bias or prejudice that makes the most heinous crimes come with the longest sentences? Do white murderers receive less time than black murderers?
Here are some of the findings:
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Black male offenders continued to receive longer sentences than similarly situated White male offenders. Black male offenders received sentences on average 19.1 percent longer than similarly situated White male offenders during the Post-Report period (fiscal years 2012-2016), as they had for the prior four periods studied. The differences in sentence length remained relatively unchanged compared to the Post-Gall period.
Non-government sponsored departures and variances appear to contribute significantly to the difference in sentence length between Black male and White male offenders. Black male offenders were 21.2 percent less likely than White male offenders to receive a non-government sponsored downward departure or variance during the Post-Report period. Furthermore, when Black male offenders did receive a non-government sponsored departure or variance, they received sentences 16.8 percent longer than White male offenders who received a non-government sponsored departure or variance. In contrast, there was a 7.9 percent difference in sentence length between Black male and White male offenders who received sentences within the applicable sentencing guidelines range, and there was no statistically significant difference in sentence length between Black male and White male offenders who received a substantial assistance departure.
Violence in an offender’s criminal history does not appear to account for any of the demographic differences in sentencing. Black male offenders received sentences on average 20.4 percent longer than similarly situated White male offenders, accounting for violence in an offender’s past in fiscal year 2016, the only year for which such data is available. This figure is almost the same as the 20.7 percent difference without accounting for past violence. Thus, violence in an offender’s criminal history does not appear to contribute to the sentence imposed to any extent beyond its contribution to the offender’s criminal history score determined under the sentencing guidelines.
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