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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:02 pm to Warrior Court
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:02 pm to Warrior Court
Human life.
Can't argue that.
Can't argue that.
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:03 pm to tommy2tone1999
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That would be God. So believe in God, but not in the morality He created?
Yes.
That's exactly what he's saying
ETA: But it's ok not to worry about any murder especially if it's in the realm of politics...in that case then morality has nothing to do with it ha
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:06 pm to madamtiger
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#1 Calling women whores and sluts … is usually not equally thrown out about the man
First, sticks and stones; does this really matter.
Second, most abortions are performed because women do not do their due diligence. Yes I blame the women because the female controls access to sex. She often fails to use birth control and/or doesn’t insist upon condoms.
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#2 … Start talking about what new can do to support women who have an unplanned pregnancy. What safety nets can we provide for job security or unrealized complications that result in medical bills that she will be stuck with? Or time off for birth? Most of the people that comment on here are men and remember, the men in this situation don't have any of this burden.
Start talking about support…? Where have you been? Let’s see: abortion, adoption, dropping the kid off at the fire department, free (government) prenatal health care, birth cost, child medicine, food stamps, wic, free school breakfast and lunch, and untold local and national charities.
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Or time off for birth?
FMLA Guarantees 12 weeks off with job protection.
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, the men in this situation don't have any of this burden.
They face a minimum of 18 years child support, and prison time if they fail to pay. And they cannot put the child up for adoption, nor drop the kid off at the fire station and walk away.
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he went to work for a family friend to make cash and couldn't be compelled to pay child support.
So he was living a life of poverty and has no social security, medical insurance, or retirement. Wow what a great life. You could have reported him and them to the IRS and them to the labor officials. Also through court you could subpoena hie tax and rental records. You and friends could record him working etc.
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mom doesn't give a crap and sperm donor didn't want to be a dad. … I have watched these kids turn into criminals and drug addicts.
Truth But how many sperm donors pay child support and mom spends the money on herself and throws the kids to the street? And how many baby daddies don’t know they’re baby daddies? REMEMBER WOMEN CONTROL SEX!
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I truly believe in the exceptions. I have a daughter.
I have two daughters, a wife, a sister, and four nieces. Any and all could become a victim of rape (incessant is just an especially evil form of rape). How does murdering the innocent child make the rape experience better. If raising the innocent child is not an option, then adoption is.
Now if the life of the mother is in actual danger, then she has the legal right and Judeo-Christian duty to protect herself!
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She would lose her entire life right now. Its not merely an "inconvenience." Its life changing and can screw you up for life. She would lose her college life and definitely her job.
Complete Bullshite!
“She would lose her entire life” only if the arsehole murders her. The trauma of the rape is not erased by butchering the unborn child. She can work and go to class like tens of thousands of pregnant women do every day. She can give the child up for adoption and be back to her regular schedule in weeks. I’m sure her school, boss, and religious charities would be happy to help.
Years later she will still probably say that the worse day of her life was being raped. But then she’ll probably say that she was proud to choose life for a fellow human being despite the pain and inconvenience the rape caused her.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:06 pm to i am dan
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Human life. Can't argue that
The majority disagrees with you.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:13 pm to Warrior Court
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The majority disagrees with you.
That's all fine and dandy, continue down the road of moral relativism as it pertains to murder.
It doesn't help society in the long run as we grow further away from God.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The response to my comment was not God
I figured as much. That just makes your entire argument even less valid
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:17 pm to Azkiger
quote:If it’s not why did you use the term?
It's not, though.
quote:Jesus, do I have to explain basic biology and taxonomy to you?
The same species as the egg and sperm that formed it.
Neither the sperm or the egg meet the definition of living organism. The zygote does. Aristotle laid the foundation for that logical thought a couple of thousand years ago.
A is A. That hasn’t changed since then and won’t change.
quote:I don’t know if it’s most, never bothered to look about the percentages, just understood the concept 40 years ago when my wife and I were trying to have our first child.
Most don't. Intelligent Design, am I right?
As far as intelligent design, I tend to follow evolutionary evidence. But at some point everything began. The opening lines of genesis do seem to describe the Big Bang theory a few thousand years before we heard it called that doesn’t it.
Is that true? No way to know until we die and find out if entropy or heaven/hell is our fate.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:18 pm to Warrior Court
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The majority disagrees with you.
So what?
What point do y'all think that makes?
If you're even fairly conservative, the majority is going to disagree with you on just about everything because as someone else pointed out, conservatism demands personal responsibility, which is an anathema to today's society.
So it's a minority position. So what?
We concede every issue that is a minority policy?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:20 pm to wackatimesthree
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We concede every issue that is a minority policy?
Well duh because it's politics. frick the minority
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:23 pm to wackatimesthree
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What point do y'all think that makes?
if the majority disagrees, you should take another look at your position and be curious about the why of it.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:25 pm to gaetti15
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It doesn't help society in the long run as we grow further away from God.
your religion is fine for you but keep it away from me. wouldn't you agree that we shouldn't be forcing this on each other?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:27 pm to Warrior Court
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your religion is fine for you but keep it away from me. wouldn't you agree that we shouldn't be forcing this on each other?
Well it'll never be forced on you because we arent the majority and we live in America but like the last post mentioned, doesn't mean we should shy away from what is morally right.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:28 pm to Jim Brockmire
Nope. Not a Democrat. And I didn’t say financial assistance. I pay a shite ton in taxes that go to waste on welfare and free stuff to single parents. I wanted to talk about that further but can’t get past the name calling. Useless government programs..no more. so calling me a democrat because of my post is useless…but you do you. but if we keep giving handouts and not doing something else to get these neglected kids out of the cesspool of their lives while adding more by banning abortion, then we reap the consequences. We need some new ideas to help children because the ones coming up in these situations are going to need it. News flash…these types of parents that have all these kids they didn’t want or don’t support are not changing!
More kids doesn’t equal more quality and that’s going to be our kids’ burdens in society.
More kids doesn’t equal more quality and that’s going to be our kids’ burdens in society.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:28 pm to Warrior Court
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Human life. Can't argue that
The majority disagrees with you.
Sorry, it's not a political race or a popularity contest. It's not up for a vote. It is a biological fact.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:29 pm to i am dan
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Are those human cells inside the mother?
yes
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Is that group of cells alive?
unsure, hence
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Only when the cells become a human. We don't know what that point is, or else the discussion would be easy and a consensus would be easy to reach
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Like I said, justify your thinking so you don't feel bad when killing a unborn human life.
I said I don't know when the cells become human
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:30 pm to RebRxV
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It is a biological fact.
obviously it's very cut and dry - that's why we all agree on it.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:30 pm to tommy2tone1999
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That just makes your entire argument even less valid
Not if you understand where religions came from.
If it makes you feel better, we can clarify this for religions that existed before Christianity/Judaism
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Not if you understand where religions came from.
If it makes you feel better, we can clarify this for religions that existed before Christianity/Judaism
Alright squirrelmeister
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:37 pm to gaetti15
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Alright squirrelmeister
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Alright squirrelmeister
Guy always comes in here and has fights with foomanchoo over Christianity (well whatever you would call non-Catholic individuals)
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