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re: Abraham's letter to Rispone
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:50 pm to Suntiger
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:50 pm to Suntiger
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To Abraham’s credit, he’s saying he will dismantle DOTD, although I’m not sure what his plan is to do without it. But it’s at least something.
whoa- what? He said that?
He can't possibly mean that.
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:57 pm to LSURussian
The Rispone group has not. Nothing they said was a lie. You just aren’t capable of criticizing “your guy”. You are to busy defending him.
The Abraham camp hasn’t spend hundred of thousands of dollars. Because the don’t have it to spend. They have however attacked Rispone often.
Notice I didn’t say “lie”? Because I’m capable of objective thought. Unlike the Abraham shills like you. Again, try to focus on the words and not your feelings. I am not saying all Abraham supporters, just the shills (which seems numerous on this board). Som of Abraham’s attacks have been truthful and fact based (but at least to me unimportant topics) most have been innuendo and “feeling” based.
Rispone’s ad was fact based, objective statements. You just don’t want to hear them.
At least Setrius doesn’t try to call them lies, he doesn’t even typically try to defend them. He just makes it know he doesn’t like it and it is misplaced. That’s respectable, you have ever deny them and go straight to name calling. That is childish.
The Abraham camp hasn’t spend hundred of thousands of dollars. Because the don’t have it to spend. They have however attacked Rispone often.
Notice I didn’t say “lie”? Because I’m capable of objective thought. Unlike the Abraham shills like you. Again, try to focus on the words and not your feelings. I am not saying all Abraham supporters, just the shills (which seems numerous on this board). Som of Abraham’s attacks have been truthful and fact based (but at least to me unimportant topics) most have been innuendo and “feeling” based.
Rispone’s ad was fact based, objective statements. You just don’t want to hear them.
At least Setrius doesn’t try to call them lies, he doesn’t even typically try to defend them. He just makes it know he doesn’t like it and it is misplaced. That’s respectable, you have ever deny them and go straight to name calling. That is childish.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:01 pm to Ron Grover
quote:
Bottom line: None of this unproductive back and forth would've materialized between two of the more legit conservatives we've had run for governor in years if Rispone wouldn't have fired shots on tv.
I agree with you. And Rispone wouldn’t have fired on TV if Abraham would have honored his word to not campaign against the Republican candidates both times he agreed to do so.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:18 pm to The Rodfather
quote:When someone twists words to leave a false impression, that's a lie. Rispone lied about Abraham. Period.
The Rispone group has not. Nothing they said was a lie.
quote:That's why Edwards is likely going to win.
Unlike the Abraham shills like you.
I've never met Abraham. I've not contributed to his campaign. I don't live in his district.
I was fully committed to vote for Rispone until he started with his attack ads that I knew were lies.
Now I will vote for Abraham in the primary. If it's Rispone in the runoff with Edwards, which IMO it's getting less likely to be a runoff, I will vote for him. (Although you're starting to convince me I shouldn't support a candidate who attracts low-life people like you.)
Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:22 pm to The Rodfather
quote:Nothing about that statement is accurate.
And Rispone wouldn’t have fired on TV if Abraham would have honored his word to not campaign against the Republican candidates both times he agreed to do so.
Rispone saw his chances of making the runoff slip away, along with the $11 million of his own money that he spent, so he went negative. Not just "negative" but telling the same lies about Abraham that GumboPAC was spewing. Some of it was almost word for word.
And this is AFTER Rispone told Rep. Clay Higgins that he would not go with attack ads. So, he lied about that, too.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:32 pm to LSURussian
Back in July the LAGOP made them both commit to not attacking each other after one of the GOP reps saw Abraham making negative he remarks about Rispone at an event they were both at. Then tried to blame a critical article on him as something the Rispone camp put out. Then his SuperPAC made an ad about Rispone. After they committed for a second time in July, Abraham kept the attacks coming at joint events. That is when Rispone put his ad out in August.
Explain again how Rispone started this? And please explain how the statements Rispone made are lies or framed as such?
Explain again how Rispone started this? And please explain how the statements Rispone made are lies or framed as such?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:57 pm to The Rodfather
The first attack ad I saw by either candidate was by Rispone. Rep. Clay Higgins, who I believe is a straight shooter, said he decided to support Abraham when Rispone started his attack ads. That was after both candidates agreed to not go negative against each other.
Rispone’s ad claims “Abraham lied about donating his congressional salary to St. Jude and veteran groups.” FACT: Abraham donated his congressional salary to St. Jude and veteran groups both years of his first term in office. He lived off of his income from his medical practice.
The House ethics committee learned about it and told him he was not allowed to draw a salary from his medical practice. So, beginning with his second term he lived off of his congressional salary and directed his medical practice to donate his share of its profits to St. Jude and veteran groups. He continues to do that. Rispone twisted the facts. He lied.
Rispone’s ad said Dr. Abraham voted against Trump’s border wall. Fact: There have been numerous votes on the wall and Abraham has voted in favor the wall every time except ONCE because he believed the amount of funding for the wall in that bill was too little. He wanted MORE funding than that bill contained. Some other conservative Republicans also voted against that bill. Rispone twisted the facts. He lied.
Rispone’s ad said Dr. Abraham voted with Nancy Pelosi hundreds of times. FACT: The vast majority of votes in the House are routine votes that are unanimous. Votes for recognizing a sports team winning a championship or who to name a new post office or other federal building after. Or even votes to adjourn the House. Sure, Dr. Abraham voted the same as Nancy Pelosi did on those votes, along with every other representative. On the “important” policy or funding votes, Dr. Abraham voted against the Dems. Every conservative warchdog group (NRA, Family Forum, erc.) has consistently rated Abraham as one of the most reliable votes. Rispone twisted the facts. He lied.
Rispone’s ad said Dr. Abraham didn’t do his job because he missed so many votes. FACT: Dr. Abraham rarely missed any vote until he started campaigning for governor. Since then he has missed many of the routine votes but still flies back to Washington every time there is a critical close vote where his vote is needed. Rispne twisted the facts. He lied.
Abraham issued a press release not long ago where he explained everything Rispone lied about and why it was a lie.
To me not telling the whole truth is a lie. Rispone didn’t tell the whole truth. He lied.
Rispone’s ad claims “Abraham lied about donating his congressional salary to St. Jude and veteran groups.” FACT: Abraham donated his congressional salary to St. Jude and veteran groups both years of his first term in office. He lived off of his income from his medical practice.
The House ethics committee learned about it and told him he was not allowed to draw a salary from his medical practice. So, beginning with his second term he lived off of his congressional salary and directed his medical practice to donate his share of its profits to St. Jude and veteran groups. He continues to do that. Rispone twisted the facts. He lied.
Rispone’s ad said Dr. Abraham voted against Trump’s border wall. Fact: There have been numerous votes on the wall and Abraham has voted in favor the wall every time except ONCE because he believed the amount of funding for the wall in that bill was too little. He wanted MORE funding than that bill contained. Some other conservative Republicans also voted against that bill. Rispone twisted the facts. He lied.
Rispone’s ad said Dr. Abraham voted with Nancy Pelosi hundreds of times. FACT: The vast majority of votes in the House are routine votes that are unanimous. Votes for recognizing a sports team winning a championship or who to name a new post office or other federal building after. Or even votes to adjourn the House. Sure, Dr. Abraham voted the same as Nancy Pelosi did on those votes, along with every other representative. On the “important” policy or funding votes, Dr. Abraham voted against the Dems. Every conservative warchdog group (NRA, Family Forum, erc.) has consistently rated Abraham as one of the most reliable votes. Rispone twisted the facts. He lied.
Rispone’s ad said Dr. Abraham didn’t do his job because he missed so many votes. FACT: Dr. Abraham rarely missed any vote until he started campaigning for governor. Since then he has missed many of the routine votes but still flies back to Washington every time there is a critical close vote where his vote is needed. Rispne twisted the facts. He lied.
Abraham issued a press release not long ago where he explained everything Rispone lied about and why it was a lie.
To me not telling the whole truth is a lie. Rispone didn’t tell the whole truth. He lied.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:59 pm to lsursb
Just to be clear, did Abraham pull all of his negative ads already?
Or is he saying hell only do it if Rispone does it first? Because that's how I read it and it solidifes my vote for Rispone.
Or is he saying hell only do it if Rispone does it first? Because that's how I read it and it solidifes my vote for Rispone.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:00 pm to Jake88
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Rispone is trash and will not get a vote from my family.
quote:
Jake88
So Rispone is only out 1 vote?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:14 pm to The Rodfather
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Back in July the LAGOP made them both commit to not attacking each other after one of the GOP reps saw Abraham making negative he remarks about Rispone at an event they were both at.
Link? I keep reading references to Abraham “starting this” but have seen no proof of this in my research. No article I have seen about an Abraham rally, townhall, speech, interview, etc. mentioned any quote of negative comments about Rispone. Can anyone direct me to an example of these “attacks”?
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:18 pm to Rock the Casbah
I won't vote for Abraham. He's a drug peddler.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:18 pm to Rock the Casbah
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Abraham is a known quantity with 4 years in Congress.
To his constituents maybe. I'd never heard of him. Or Rispone either. But Abraham has not been able to raise any money and his performance in the first debate was horrendous. He may be a very nice guy but he is uninspiring at this point. I voted for Rispone but I will support Abraham if he makes the runoff.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:20 pm to Adajax
Same. Voted Rispone but will vote Abraham if he gets the nod.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:22 pm to lsursb
All of this hand wringing from Abraham supporters is because the Rispone ads have been successful. If Abraham was still in 2nd they wouldn’t care. Rispone has surged the last two months and Abraham is in a lot of trouble.
People who would be turned off by the Rispone ads are weak people you wouldn’t want to associate with anyways.
People who would be turned off by the Rispone ads are weak people you wouldn’t want to associate with anyways.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:27 pm to dgnx6
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I won't vote for Abraham. He's a drug peddler.
He won't be peddling from the Governor's Mansion. Don't stay home and let honest John get another four years or that will be the final nail in LA's coffin. We'll be so far behind the other 49 economically that we'll never recover, not in our lifetimes.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:36 pm to League Champs
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Who blows good money on attacking, and continuing to attack the man running in last place?
Welcome to jungle primaries. Rispone knows he is running against Abraham right now. If he beats Abraham then he will be running against JBE next.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:55 pm to LSURussian
quote:. Thx for the run down. It’s Abe for me.
To me not telling the whole truth is a lie. Rispone didn’t tell the whole truth. He lied.
I’ll vote for that dried up, squeaky little dago if he wins the primary though.This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:34 pm to lsursb
If Abraham was really concerned about Louisiana he would pull out.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:36 pm to The Boat
The financial situation of Abraham’s campaign will be a concern should he make it past this election. Don’t need someone cash strapped going against JBE
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:42 pm to RougeDawg
quote:Great idea. If you’re an Edwards supporter.
If Abraham was really concerned about Louisiana he would pull out.
It’s too late to remove Abraham’s name from the ballot so any votes cast for him would not be counted. So Edwards would only need 50% + 1 vote of the valid votes counted. He wins re-election in the primary.
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